Army National Guard 11b? airborne?

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Army National Guard 11b? airborne?

Answer 1

Possible, yes but not probable. If you want those schools I highly encourage you to go active duty. You can enter active duty with Ranger training in your contract. Airborne is a requirement for Rangers so you will get both that way.



@Saber: No combat vet would say medics are POGs.

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National Guard Airborne

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Ever consider 18E, 25C would be the perfect cross-over. Check and see if there are any SF guard units in your area...

Answer 5

Talk to another recruiter in another area and tell them the deal, but your recruiter sounds right. It it hard to change contracts. Why the sudden change? Anyway, try to re-up on the BEAR program and go SF or volunteer in your MOS for a Ranger battalion then if you can't wait just 9 months. I say wait the 9 months unless there is something else your not saying about yor unit or position that you need to rush and change. I mean you got a 1 year old and your in the Guard. So just wait, then reclass and roll out. Patience makes a good warrior.

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Army National Guard 11b? airborne?

Im thinking about joining the guard as 11b. Id like to also go Airborne and then possibly Ranger after. Is this even possible in the guard? Also Id like to know about peoples personal experiences as 11b or Airborne. Thanks

Answer 7

Guy you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Being an instructor at Airborne school the National Guard had an 85% fail rate. Terrible training. Also, it's they send us fat people who can barely pass a pt test. No Go and no thanks. That's why the slots are so low. Also, the National Guard unit that was deployed to Iraq when I went through Al Taqadim, ugh, stop shooting at shadows, stop shooting when you're told, don't shoot at drill sergeants or your own people coming back to base. Where's your training at? Was so glad to go back to Ramadi to avoid being shot at by people who were not trained properly. National Guard = experiences may vary

Answer 8

Yes, it is possible but will it happen. There is a 99% chance it will not. Sure there are always exceptions but those that said they had a buddy get Airborne and Ranger tabs are the very small minority.



It is hard to get Ranger School spots in active duty and the greatest need for Rangers is on active duty.



National Guard gets last in line for Airborne school slots behind Active Duty Army, Marine, Navy and Air Force, then Army Reserves is next in line and then last in line are the National Guard. Even if they had a spot open for a National Guard member, the National Guard in your state might not have the money to send you since, funds are limited in the National Guard since they are state funded and not Federally funded so they have a lot smaller budget.



It is the same way for Ranger school.



It is best to go active duty for a few years to get a better chance at training and a spot in Airborne and/or Ranger school, then get out and go into the Reserves.



Stay away from the National Guard especially since states are cutting back big time on their budgets. Stay with the Federally funded Reserves or Active Duty.

Answer 9

not really.

there are no airborne infantry units in the guard...infact the only airborne units in the guard are riggers, and NG SF. the LRS-Cs from the NG were airborne units, however they've been phased out. since NG is state funded, their budget is extremely limited, and they'll only spend money on training that you NEED...since there are no airborne infantry units in the guard, they wont pay for you to go to airborne school. also the airborne recruiter at OSUT takes active duty volunteers only, since when he does go to an OSUT company to recruit its because an active airborne unit is going to be short on members by the time you'd graduate airborne school. really the only way to get it in the NG is to win some soldier of hte year competition where thats the reward, or to reenlist for it.

as far as ranger: you can completely forget that. ranger regiment is an active duty unit.

just a side note, id suggest against the nasty guard if you want to do infantry. even if your unit trained every day of drill (which you wont) it will still take you a full year to train as much as your average active duty infantryman trains in 2-3 months. thats not enough time to be competant at your job, and since your job is life or death...well why do you think active duty looks down on the ng?



edit: saber- RIP/ROP (now called RASP) is a school that exists ONLY to get you into ranger regiment. you cannot be in teh nasty guard and do it...pog. and btw being a ranger means you are in ranger regiment, being "ranger qualified" means that you went through ranger school. 2 completely different things.



edit #2: saber wow you Nasty Girls really are thin skinned...and i dont care what MOS you get to act like 1 weekend a month...NG is pog, plain and simple. and actually the reserves do have a higher need for airborne than the NG, since the reserves have the majority of the CA and PSYOP units in the army. FYI in the real army, line medics definately are not POGs. not sure how you weekend "warriors" do it, but in the 82nd a line medic does every thing an infantryman does. we clear houses, we walk with the infantry, and we send rounds down range. and like someone else stated "no deployed combat arms soldier would consider his medic to be a pog"

Answer 10

LOL@ alexander! He obviously doesnt know a damn thing... I got a buddy in the guard who is Infantry and he is airborne qualified. every year there is a certain amount of slots available for the guard.. (definelty not nasty guard...Many times we have deployed more often that of the AD......) anyways, He is correct in saying that states dont have airborne units unless they have special forces units.... but yes you can still get airborne..And as for the "ranger" thing he stated..LOL.... you defeinetly cant go to RIP and ROP in the guard. But Somtimes you can attend Ranger school. There are no ranger regiments or battalians in the guard,but that doesnt keep you from going to hooah schools. Take it from me.



Edit: It has nothing to do with states..damn people. The state does not pay for you to go to aiborne school or anything else. When you go to those schools you are placed on active duty army pay roll. And no the national guard is not last in line (especially behind the reserves) The reserves have absolutely NO NEED FOR THOSE UNITS AT ALL, because it does not have combat units (infantry, Armor, Artillery) The entire reserve command is nothing but support MOSs and units. The guard slots are small, but they are very possible. Get a high PT score and have a combat MOS (infantry and cavalry scouts are most likely) and you can pretty much bet that you will at least be "looked at".



EDIT 2: LOL@alexander yet again...So now i'ma pog.. you dont evenknow who or what I am... if anyone is a pog it's you. ..."medic"...medics are defiently pogs. And actually youre wrong. Ranger school is now considered a leadership school. You have to complete the course in order to continue onto leadership roles in the 75th ranger regiment and it can be taken as an extra "hooah" school like air assualt and airborne. You are correct about the RIP and ROP. I never said that he could go to them while in the guard. LOL. I only put that information in there strictly for informational purposes. and as for the "Pog" thing. like I said. If anyone is a pog here it would be you, Medics are not grunts. And if youre wondering what my MOS is.. 19D Cav Scout. I never got on here and disrespected you, so I suggest you show some respect as well. Thanks, Have a nice day.....POG

Answer 11

Nope,



You can get airborne school in your contract.



But there are no airborne National guard units, so you will not jump again, after Airborne school.



There are no Rangers in the National Guard.



It is possible to go to Ranger School while in the National Guard, but generally the only chance you will have, is after you reenlist in 4 or 6 years.

Answer 12

Yes join an elite unit in the Gaurd.



Go through the ranks apply for the school. Schools will open up you wont be on the top of the list but you might get in.



You can do Ranger school without being airborn qualified.



Do whatever school opens first



Ranger school might be a lot more challenging having to March into battle instead of being dropped on an LZ



If you want to be a real Ranger get the Scroll and go do a combat tour with a Ranger Battalion.