Question:
Why is it many people believe Vietnam Vets were spit on when they returned?
anonymous
2007-07-10 07:21:20 UTC
Let's get this straight. No one spit on the troops. No one. I came home twice from over seas between 1969 and 1975 and not one person spit on me. For some reason the Vietnam Vets like to tell all who will listen they were spit upon. Spitting never happened. This is an urban Legend. Lies! No one would be rude enough to walk up and spit. Now do you understand no one was spit upon?
24 answers:
bruce b
2007-07-10 07:29:02 UTC
Honestly, I agree with you but I don't think the term "spit upon" meant the actual act as much as the verbal venom they received...these unfortunate men and to a lesser degree, woman chose or were forced to serve their country in a nasty war and returned home expecting to be celebrated and instead were demonized by many..they deserved better and I think the treatment was called "spit upon" but I certainly hope that people from a superior society, using the term very loosely, would not resort to such a disgusting act..even though these heroes were returning from a war that was a disgusting act by their government.
Middleclassandnotquiet
2007-07-10 14:49:19 UTC
Although it's impossible to disprove a negative, there is no evidence that anybody ever gobbed on a soldier returning from Vietnam. Holy Cross sociology professor Jerry Lembcke devoted an entire book to demolishing the spit myth. He went from Vietnam Vet to Vietnam Vet, and found not one that was spit on but they always "knew someone".



I think there are a couple things here. 1) Returning Vets and anti-war protesters might have made natural allies and the propaganda/urban myth of protesters spitting on troops broke up the alliance before it started



And 2) It was preferable for returning Vets to blame the protesters for the psychological damage they experienced, rather than the government that sent them to war.



Of course, that works today too, there is already stories circulated around that troops have been spit on-which is ridiculous-there is no one that would do such a thing.



And last, I can't imagine any Marine that sadly turns away after being spat upon-there would instead be a story about a protester being beat nearly to death. As ridiculous as it is, the urban myth will live on.
anonymous
2007-07-10 14:37:00 UTC
Some were spit upon. It has fit certain people's agenda to repeatedly claim that this was a widespread phenomenon.



I can, however, vouch for the fact that public perception of Vietnam veterans was not great. I was only about 14 when the fighting stopped but I do remember thinking that most veterans were probably guilty of atrocities and were not people to be honored. I don't think that at the time, I personally knew anyone who had served over there. I since have met many who did and realize they were caught up in something much bigger than any of us.



I now feel kind of ashamed to have felt negatively about you veterans, but it just came from what I was exposed to in the media, not a real conscious decision process.



While I remain firm in my conviction that that war was a colossal mistake - I don't know if you agree or disagree - I do thank you for your service to our country. I do not blame soldiers for the mistakes made by our civilian leadership and I am in awe of the bravery of our men and women in uniform.
beckyschristine
2007-07-10 15:29:05 UTC
There were a lot of opponents of the war. I don't know if the troops were spit on, but when they returned home, they were basically shunned and booed. My father was in the Army, and he did 2 tours of Vietnam. If you want to ask about his mentality, I could not answer you because I was not born yet.



Even though they were probably not spit on, but they were definitely booed, and were made not to feel welcomed when they did return home. Good day
John T
2007-07-10 14:39:20 UTC
Considering the only card you hold is an ACLU card and that you were never in the military, I actually believe that you were not spit on. I believe in fact you were probably one of those doing the spitting, just as you spew your lies on here.



Pretending to be a Viet Nam vet, I think your imagination may have returned. Perhaps you could at least get the dates right. The military left Viet Nam in 73, two years before the fall of Saigon. Your lie might be more believable if you had the correct dates.



Video footage and personal testimony provides proof of the mistreatment of our honorable veterans of Viet Nam, including spitting. Your despicable lies are once again proven false.
usafbrat64
2007-07-10 16:21:29 UTC
Dad never got spit on, but I do remember the windows in our car being broken by rocks that people were throwing as we left the airport. Whether they were spat upon by actual spit or figuratively by things being thrown at them, it doesn't really matter. All I know is that people were out of line throwing rocks at cars with vets and with children in them!
ItsJustMe
2007-07-10 14:30:02 UTC
One of the markets I sell to for my hotels is Military Reunions. I have the privilege of working with hundreds and hundreds of veterans of all different eras, WWII, Vietnam, Korea and even Dessert Storm.



I can tell you first hand that all these veterans like to tell stories, and I love to listen to them. It is the least I can do, in appreciation for their service to our country.



Since I was an infant in 1969, I have no memory of any of that taking place, but rest assured that all the Vietnam Vets tell the stories about being spit on, yelled at and heckled, and generally treated with distain and disrespect.



I understand (and am glad) that this was not your personal experience, but forgive me if I take them at their word that it was indeed their experience.



God Bless Our Troops, past, present and future.
guess
2007-07-10 14:23:26 UTC
I've heard that too, but it'd be better to provide a source rather than a personal anecdote. A simple Google search provides many results with supposed Vietnam vets who claimed that they were indeed spit on and insulted.
inaru816
2007-07-10 14:25:03 UTC
Are we a little self-centered? Just because it didn't happen to YOU, doesn't mean it didn't happen. My father is a Vietnam Era Vet and though he was not spit upon he was definitely treated like less than a Vet.
AmericanPatriot
2007-07-11 00:29:42 UTC
STILL at it, I see. So sad you're such a bitter, hateful old man.

When my best friend came home after his third tour in Viet Nam, IN UNIFORM, and landed in S.F., he was advised to change into civvies. He was never spit on, but when he stopped in the airport bar for a beer, it took forever for the bartender to wait on him. It took a civvie to get the dork's attention and DEMAND he wait on Rick, then paid for the beer so the bartender wouldn't have to handle TAINTED MONEY. Rick proudly wore his U.S. Army uniform all the way home... with his bronze star ribbon, several air ribbons, 3 purple hearts and various other awards.

I wonder where YOU get your information? We were called baby killers and all sorts of terrible names because WE DID OUR DUTY. Something you seem to forget.

Our troops are still being called baby killers in Iraq/Afghanistan because your loving liberal, military hating media REFUSES to print stories/pictures of the humanitarian work our troops ALSO do. Guess THAT gets by you, too. Typical.

(USN, retired/in-country Viet Nam vet 66-67)
richard b
2007-07-10 14:39:16 UTC
i am happy you didnt get spit on, however i know people who are vietnam vets that did get spit on. some were very bitter about it, and some were not. even today vets are dishonored when they come home. we have people protesting at funerals for our soldiers.
*Daisy*
2007-07-10 14:25:27 UTC
Perhaps not all were welcomed with "open arms" like you were upon return.



My FH's father was a Vietnam Vet (Helicopter pilot to be precise) and it wasnt until recent years he started being treated like one.



Although, I am glad for your sake, you didnt have to endure slander of that sort. :)
anonymous
2007-07-10 14:44:35 UTC
If you tried to tell that to my brother, you'd find yourself picking up your teeth. He was spit on when he got off the plane and passed through the civilians. You're an idiot and you're a liar.
browneyedgirl623
2007-07-10 14:28:09 UTC
So because you didn't witness it, it didn't happen? Whether there was spitting or not, our Vietnam Vets were not welcomed home in the manner that they deserved.
Curtis B
2007-07-10 14:32:32 UTC
Yeah, but you were going home to Hanoi. Here in the states people were spit on, called names, and generally disrespected and made to feel ashamed.
Ms Always Right
2007-07-10 14:29:58 UTC
I had family in Vietnam and they were in fact spit on, had rocks thrown, and all kinds of things when they came home in Uniform.
joseph m
2007-07-10 14:30:10 UTC
I take it when you came home you were not a.black b. poor.c.you had a sfamily support structure ,of course vets were spat upon ,not on base but in bars ,clubs etc ,the air force were baby killers etc.The entire anti war movement reviled the vets .These self same peaceniks hellno we wont go were mainly rich college kids whose parents failed to get them excemptions and they were shitting themselves and many of them are todays politicians [see bill and hilary for example].
anonymous
2007-07-10 19:17:24 UTC
hmm who do i believe your or my Uncle. Let me think long and hard, you post anti American questions everywere, my uncle served for 20 years. I will believe him when he says he was spit on
Yes I am here!!
2007-07-10 14:24:50 UTC
i saw several spit on and urinated on. they were put in a parade and as they were going down the street people from up above were spitting, throwing trash and i saw from several windows people urinating down on the street below. Glad you had a good home welcome. Several did not.
mommanuke
2007-07-10 14:24:01 UTC
I've seen film of them being spit on. I'm glad it didn't happen to you.
anonymous
2007-07-10 14:37:26 UTC
Gee thats another example of the Americans sticking their noses in again thank you for that........the more personal statements of oppression the better it helps to prove how the americans are facist......as for spitting i agree its wouldn`t be worth the spit......burning the stars and stripes is better......and does that rag burn.....heres the star....and thank for helping the annuals of history
anonymous
2007-07-10 14:24:48 UTC
no spitting
yesiamalesbian
2007-07-10 14:24:42 UTC
you actually seen EVERY person return home? you were there?
El Alakran Mexican'O'Ian
2007-07-10 22:32:40 UTC
Drug addiction


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