Question:
why do americans think their special forces are better than british special forces?
smsd
2011-08-18 16:54:56 UTC
why do americans persist on saying that their special forces are the best in the world even when confronted with the evidence.

Us navy seals entry requirements
swim 500 yards in 12.5 minutes or less, followed by a 10-minute rest
do 42 push-ups in under two minutes, followed by a two-minute rest
do 50 sit-ups in under two minutes, followed by a two-minute rest
do six pull-ups, followed by a 10-minute rest
run 1.5 miles in boots and long pants in less than 11.5 minutes
Hardest part of the training
-diving phrase

Us Army rangers entry requirements
49 push-ups,
59 sit-ups,
An individual 5-mile release run event finished in 40 minutes or less,
6 chin-ups.
hardest part of training
sleep deprivation

Usmc recon entry requirements
3 pull-ups
15 seconds flexed arm hang
60 crunches
3 mile run in 28:00
hardest part of training
A long exercise at the end

British special forces
Sas entry requirements
be able to complete the british army bft (battle fitness test)
hardest part of training

The first phase of selection is known as the endurance, fitness and navigation, or 'the hills' stage. This is the endurance portion of selection and not only tests a candidate's physical fitness, but also their mental stamina. To pass this phase, a high level of determination and self-reliance is vital.
The hills stage lasts 3 weeks and takes place in the Brecon Beacons and Black Hills of South Wales. Candidates have to carry an ever-increasingly-heavy bergen over a series of long timed hikes, navigating between checkpoints. No encouragement or criticism is provided by the supervising staff at the checkpoints. SAS Directing Staff (DS) are fully-badged members of the regiment and leave each candidate to their own devices. This can be a marked contrast from the selectee's experience in their parent units. They would be used to their instructors shouting constant instructions at them, along with encouragement and abuse. The demands of life in a special forces unit require each member to be self-motivated.The endurance phase culminates with 'the long drag', a 40 mile trek carrying a 55lb bergen, that must be completed in under 24 hours.


Those who have passed stage 1 have to then pass jungle training. Training takes place in Belize, in the heart of deep jungles. Candidates learn the basics of surviving and patrolling in the harsh conditions. SAS jungle patrols have to live for weeks behind enemy lines, in 4 man patrols, living on rations. Jungle training weeds out those who can't handle the discipline required to keep themselves and their kit in good condition whilst on long range patrol in difficult conditions. Again, there is a mental component being tested, not just a physical. Special Forces teams need men who can work under relentless pressure, in horrendous environments for weeks on end, without a lifeline back to home base.


For the escape and evasion (E&E) portion of the course, the candidates are given brief instructions on appropriate techniques. This may include talks from former POWs or special forces soldiers who have been in E&E situations in the real world.

Next, the candidates are let loose in the countryside, wearing World War 2 vintage coats with instructions to make their way to a series of waypoints without being captured by the hunter force of other soldiers. This portion lasts for 3 days after which, captured or not, all candidates report for TQ.

Tactical Questioning (TQ) tests the prospective SAS men's ability to resist interrogation. They are treated roughly by their interrogators, often made to stand in 'stress positions' for hours at a time, while disorientating white noise is blasted at them. When their turn for questioning comes, they must only answer with the so-called 'big 4' (name, rank, serial number and date of birth). All other questions must be answered with 'I'm sorry but I cannot answer that question.' Failure to do so results in failing the course. The questioners will use all sorts of tricks to try and get a reaction from the candidates. They may act friendly and try to get their subjects chatting; or they stand inches away from their subjects and scream unfavourable remarks about the sexual habits of their mothers. Female interrogators may laugh at the size of their subject's manhood. Of course, a real interrogation would be a lot more harsh and the subject would not know that they get to leave alive when it's all over. That said, days of interrogations and enduring the stress positions and white noise break down a man's sense of time and reality. The SAS are looking for men who can withstand such treatment long enough so that the effects of revealing any operational information they might have can be lessoned by HQ.

In the Sas about 95% drop out


Sbs
basically the same as the sas just more training has to be done such as canoing etc

Gurkha's little is know about
Eight answers:
2011-08-18 16:59:28 UTC
The Navy Seals. that's why
Wraeth
2011-08-18 17:07:52 UTC
SEALS are Naval Special Warfare

Rangers are Special Operations

Recon aren't anything.



None of the examples you provided are Special Forces. Special Forces is an actual job in the US Army and I see you neglected to mention anything about them. Honestly I have worked with the SAS (Task Force Knight), the Navy SEALs, Army Rangers, and Army Special Forces. They all seemed pretty much the same.



But of course out of national and branch pride, we are going to say we are the best.



You also only put those units ENTRY requirements, not their actual training requirements. Those are what they have to do just to TRY OUT for training. Not what their training consists of. From what you put about the SAS E&E course (which nearly every combat arms soldier has to go through some form of), the training is fairly similar to any US special operations unit.
2011-08-18 17:33:02 UTC
Your only listing the basic requirements to get in to the navy seals, rangers etc., there is a lot more to it than just the "requirements". and lets not forget we have kicked that British *** more than once. .
trippinmarlin
2014-01-11 05:25:25 UTC
pride in ones country. but the truth is spetznaz is better then all of them, mofo's die in their training and they just look at it as "hay,he was week.we dont need him" swimming in pools of blood, doing somersaults over a big *** log landing on their head and back to their feet throw a tomahawk at a target then off on a dead run again...them Russians are crazy, but the good kinda crazy lol
James Dunn
2011-08-22 06:44:03 UTC
the british army is way better than the american

there was a point in the iraq war more brit soilderes were killed by americans

british could easily fight back but they are very loal

the american special fore has 12 weeks trainining but the brits have 36
2011-08-18 16:57:26 UTC
The real test is what happens under real fire.



In battle what are you going to do, push ups until the enemy laughs his self to death.



We win.



Herb
2011-08-18 17:05:03 UTC
Its a natural feeling, the facts are facts, british special forces are obviously best in the world. They existed loong before the US special forces started. They have tougher training and are the best. however the US special forces are no less, they all train and fight together.
2011-08-18 17:00:36 UTC
WHY WOULDN`T THE AMERICANS THINK THEY ARE BETTER IN THE SPECIAL FORCES MILITARY DEPARTMENT?





IT IS JUST A NORMAL FEELING CALLED PATRIOTISM!!!!!!!!!


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