Why is Seal Team 6 is better than the SAS?

Question

is it because they took down Osama then disappeared with the body before anyone knew about it - and with no casualties?

Answer 1

It's not - they would have done the job far better - like this in fact ;



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnpKqFWsbSk

Answer 2

In the past 10 years, the SAS have been captured 4 times. SAS were captured in Iraq and had to be rescued by the US Army. SAS were captured in Syria twice when their secret mission strayed into Syria, and the SAS were captured in Libya on a secret mission.



Not to mention: Royal Marines were captured by Iran in 2007. And the Royal Navy was captured by Iran in 2003 and 2007. Yet, no US special Forces have been captured during the war on terror.



Let's face it, Brits aren't impervious to capture.

Answer 3

What a ridiculous question... (This is coming from an American.)



The SAS could have pulled off the raid just as well probably. Although the truth is we'll never know for sure. The same way we'll never know if the SEALs could have pulled off the Iranian embassy siege. The raid is over and that's all there is to it.



I really think that everyone (British and American) Need to stop talking bad about Special Forces. Especially considering most of you are just armchair generals with no military experience. These guys all train for years for this kind of thing. British or American. They're all elite at what they do.



However some of these responses are just ridiculous.



@ The guy who said the SAS would have done it without losing a helicopter. You are aware that the SEALs, SAS, and other Special Ops troops don't fly their own helicopters aren't you? The helicopters were flown by members of the US Army. The SEALs most likely had nothing to do with the crash. Their job was to kill Bin Laden. Not to fly helicopters. That's not what they train for.



@ Lord Blimey - Actually new evidence suggests that the SAS were never at Tora Bora. Only 12 members of the SBS were present. Look it up. The failure to capture Bin Laden in 2001 WAS the fault of the US but not because of the reasons you're coming up with. There were 800 US Army Rangers who could have been used and they were not sent in. Bin Laden never would have escaped if they were. It was the ineptitude of US Leaders. It wasn't the fault of the actual troops on the ground. They did the the best they could with their limited numbers and resources.

Answer 4

SEAL Team Six isn't better than the SAS. To some degree the SAS isn't even better than the Six. In my opinion the prime differences is that Six is more of a tier 1 maritime special operations force, while SAS is a tier 1 SOF like "Delta Force," well the other way around.

Answer 5

Amazing how much crap gets spewed on this subjectNavtpy Seals are not Army SA s is Army so trying compare a water borne with airborne forces is impossible...why not ask yourself what s the difference between Navy Seals and SBS as those ARE water born forces...And the nearest equivalent to SAS is Delta Force which consist of Rangers and Green Beret who have to undergo airborn training before they even make it into green beret or ranger material.

Answer 6

There is no reason to determine that SEAL Team 6 is "better" than the SAS at all. The USA (not Britain or Australia) were the ones hunting Osama, and so an American Special Forces Unit were the ones needed to take him down.



America has no SAS Regiment, and so they used their own Naval special forces (the SEALs) instead.



If Britain, for example, were the ones hunting him, it's just as likely that the SAS could have taken down Osama and disappeared with his body - and no casualties for them either.

Answer 7

Instead of talking theoretically lets just take a look at history. Who had more successes against bigger obstacles using less- The SAS. Who had the most failures? Iran Rescue attempt, Black Hawk Down incident in Somalia? Who did the American SF pattern and copy from? The SAS. In fact it was the SAS who trained most of the first American SF.



Before saying Seal Team Six or Delta are the best just look at their records and compare it to these:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aGso4-rCKA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BYrkeClCr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI3HY7g0MDU

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-105335/US-salutes-SAS-heroes.html



All arguments for the American SF seems theoretical whereas the arguments for the SAS are historical. It also has something to do with the SAS approach. Although they are highly trained, that are not doctrinal. SAS are highly adaptive.

Answer 8

You are not a US marine you are a dreamer.America has never won a war on it's own and you got your backsides kicked well and truly out of Vietnam by a lot of rise farmers so I don't think your armed forces are very good.America is just good at lying,exaggerating and making films about how great they are when they are not.

Answer 9

Well both special forces teams have had a history of success and failure. You can't always win a fight yea know. There is missions that Seal Team 6 that had lost before, so had the SAS and they both are really good special forces groups. To answer your question though, Seal Team 6 is the best special forces group in the US military surpassing the US Army Rangers and Green Berets. They are trained to go into any country without even being detected, they are also considered to be one of the finest in marksmen in the US military. Members of the SAS are highly skilled marksmen as well, so really it actually depends on which team member within the group is more trained and experienced. The Seals who came in and killed Usama Bin Laden more then likely had lots of experience and has done raids and take downs before. Unlike an unexperienced Seal team which has an higher chance of suffering casualties and not hitting there mark.



Conclusion: It doesn't matter what special forces groups, a special forces group can only be as good as the soldiers who operate within it.

Answer 10

I ll go with the SAS - they wiped the floor with the IRA while Americans sent the IRA money to kill the SAS.

Answer 11

@To the guy who said that SAS can take without any Casualties, how do you explain the Munadi raid when you shot him to death and killed an innocent women with an explosive. Mistakes happens. http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.4258/pub_detail.asp http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/afghanistan/article6828293.ece



@Wolfe, you also shot an unarmed terrorists leaders who were holding hostages during the Iranian Embassy Sige.



Everyone need to realize that we need to grow a pair and realize we are all in the same team here. Never talk bad about our SF because all it does was incite hatred between those two.

Answer 12

SEALs are a Special Operations Force, like the Royal Marine Commandos.

The SAS are a Special Forces unit, like Delta Force.



SF>SOF.



Its not quite as simple as that, but I tried to simplify it, after all, the average age on these questions is usually about 12. In reality, every western special forces unit is trained to about the standard today. As a Brit, I naturally feel very strongly about our own SAS and SBS. However, I rank them alongside the US Delta Force, NZ SAS Australian SASR, KSK, etc...



Chris, I'm not even going to bother addressing the countless mistakes in your answer.

Answer 13

Seal Team 6 is an assassination squad. They were sent in because the US didn't want anyone asking questions. If the intention had been to take Osama alive and put him on trial, they would have had to call on the SAS.

Answer 14

Had the British and Commonwealth felt the need to hunt down Bin Laden, rather than just maintain the peace, I'm sure they would've produced similar results.



They may have even been sent in if the USA had actually told the British that they knew where Bin Laden was hiding.

Answer 15

Well no one knows much about anything regarding the SAS because there so secretive, just like Delta Force. While on the other hand you can look up SEALs training, and its the hardest military training known to man. and also they realise there causualty record, In vietnam, The hardest war the U.S. fought in since WW2 we were loosing men left to right and the SEALs had a Kill death ratio of about 200 to 1

Answer 16

im a brit and im extremely proud of both the uk and us special forces,

it is well known that delta force was developed after a us officer spent some time working alongside sas,

therefore its delta/ seals and other sf are founded on uk forces,

it has to be said that the us sf have pretty much unlimited financing towards technology, where as the uk sf do definately have a limited financial budget, infact it is well documented by us forces how under equiped british forces are compared to their own,

it is why sas and sbs have it drummed into them that the mind is your greatest weapon and therefore not be so reliant on technology, and it works very well,

it is said that if you give an sas or sbs guy just a simple map and a small pen knife the enemy will be in a world of hurt,

delta force and navy seals are also very elite and very well trained but it has to be questioned do they rely on technology and toys alike allittle too much ?

both sides has had its share of success and failures lets not forget that no matter how well trained you are you are still only human,

so my statement is i dont think one is better than the other, they all cross train and are cousins and always will be side by side, it can be said that us is better for the reasons that they have better equipment,

and yet it could be said uk sf are better simply because we dont have

Answer 17

who would win sas and delta force v predator?

Answer 18

our SAS would not be able to do it as they would be charged by the anti British European Court of "human rights" I call it court of criminals rights. How great for the Americans not having to take notice of a foreign court.

Answer 19

All this time spent debating as to whether one group is better than the other is really rather amusing. Sad, but amusing.

They followed the orders issued to them.

Answer 20

Your implication clearly to be that the SAS couldn't have.



Don't be daft, son. The SAS could have done that without losing a helicopter, never mind casualties.

Answer 21

Erm, I don't think anyone called the SAS did they?

Answer 22

Right. The US Navy SEAL team 6 is the most useless of the "elite" special forces. If they also rank above the green berets and Delta Force, then it just shoves those down further. The SAS are trained in everything the SEALs are trained in, plus some more, and then train the people who train the SEALs. Then we get on to the SBS, who are equal overall to the SAS (due to being worse in some areas but better in others).



The SAS would have had him out of there, or dead, before he even noticed. The SEALs gave him time to hide behind his "wife" and then they shot both of them.

Answer 23

The seals are maritime based whilst the SAS are Airborne. So Seals are better than the SAS at what they do, conversely the SAS are better than the seals at what they do...

Answer 24

No casualties they shot an unarmed women and a man they may have used her as a human shield and the idea of a human shield is you don't shoot through them the seals caused more disturbance than any other special forces the SAS would have went in quiet killed him and got out before they knew what hit them



PS: talk to the Us navy seals they are trained in the breckons training camp in the UK via the SAS

Answer 25

no casualties?





you may have heard about the young lady whom got shot to death by these heroic seals?



this will most probably get me a violation email but **** it.





seals? hired assassins. glorify them all you like but the truth is plain to see.

Answer 26

They shot an un armed sick man and came under a vicious attack from a couple of unarmed women.......MMmmm Obviously **** hot.....Some of those Muslim women can really scratch....got them out of the country before anyone new about it.....Yea right....What f*cking planet are you on? Apparently you could hear the guns and see the explosions from over three miles away......This was arranged and over seen by the Pakistani government at the request of America.....or should I say, "American aid".

Answer 27

Yeah, it was quite an achievement to shoot down an unarmed man and his wife.



A truly elite team of assassins!



Fortunately there weren't British soldiers around, otherwise they would probably have been shot with 'friendly fire'!

Answer 28

these silly Americans make me laugh when they try to make comparisons to the SAS and most are not even aware of the SBS, what you people need to realise is hardly any of your special forces seal team 6 included wouldn't even pass the selection for the SAS and SBS, American special forces are the equivalent to a basic British commando, but i realise its a waste of time telling any of you this because you don't have the first clue what your talking about



also the British special forces tracked bin laden down in tora bora years ago and were asked to stand down and let the Americans go in ( a glory thing ) so they did,and surprise surprise they messed it up and bin laden got away, so then the British sent there special forces in and completely wiped out all Taliban and al qaeda in the whole of the tora bora complex most of it hand to hand fighting with there knives



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john d

f@ckoff you idiot, armchair general is a very apt description for you mr know all know nothing you just keep reading your books

Answer 29

They aren't better,..the whole Bin Laden story is a complete hoax.



Check this for further details:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Never_Was



If you really believe the nonsense about the daring raid and blah blah blah, you really have lost all sense of reality.



This is the truth.