Im a x marine discharged with OTH for going UA twice. Unfair?

Question

While i was in basic training, i requested time to speak to senior. like we were told. I told the senior that i was having troubles. mentally. And requested to be droped. he told me yeah i need to be let go bc of my problems and once i get to SOI school i should talk to my command and they will get me out bc he has no control over that. I believed him!! and NOT bc i couldn't hack it. bc i was squad leader upon grad! i couldn't hack it mentally but pushed through thinking i would get out which was hell on my everyday.. I got to my command at SOI i went to my gunny. he then sent me to first sgt. while this was going on. i was told i would be droped from my training i said NO! but they dropped me anyways. so i sat in receiving at SOI school. and never seen a DR, never talked to anyone about my mental problems. i sat in receiving till the next class came up from basic to SOI school. and i still wasnt allowed to speak to dr or return to tranning. i sat in a squad bay for 3 weeks ALONE!! So i went UA for 3 days and retured. mostly out of bordem. i retured and they put me in working party. then i rentured back to SOI a week later. once i returned they put me in training company. I went to capt of training of my company and talked to him about my problems. nothing! still no dr. so i left again and was gone for 42 days. and retured. when i got back they sent to brig for 4 days and when i came back they sent me through medical. i told the dr. that at times i feel suicidal and i get anxiety really bad. he sent me back to SOI but i was droped from training and put into blue jump suite. which started a bad thing between me and the first sgt. bc he was an uneducated red corvette driving asshole. the first sgt did not like me at all!! the CO and first sgt brought me into office. and ask me what i want. I said i want to stay in, bc i heard rumors that i might be goin to brig so i didn't want to go back. Instead they sent me to working party for 1 month where we were separated in huts and i wasnt allowed to be around "real marine", he only said that **** bc he knows it gets under my skin!!. first sgt came to me and said your out and your getting a OTH re-4. and dd214 says misconduct. I was fighting mad!!! I didn't want out. all i wanted was help!! i know i shouldn't of went UA. no excuses there. but that was 5 yrs ago. i have been diagnosed with Bipolar type 2. which is a chemical imbalance. and im fully functional i was just depressed at age of 19 and needed help!!! not a pansy who couldnt hack it, just knew i had a serious problem and did everything legit to try and get help. even my family was calling my co's telling them of family problems and my depression as a child and the mental health facility i went to as a child for the loss of my father. oh and my recruiter told me if i ran again he would print my name in my local newspaper that i was gay. which im not. no joke he really said that!! now, 5 yrs later and i have a family now. can i get my discharge upgraded? was i done unfair? All i want to do is serve in honor and peace of mind. i was lost then and dont believe i should be branded for my actions at 19.

Answer 1

Ok. Well since everyone here is intent on being un helpful, I guess I will do my best to give you the advice you are looking for.



1.) You need to get all the documentation from your military Dr. and your civi Dr. that you can get.

2.) Call or write your local US Congressman. Be very respectful. And tell them the truth. They will help to move the process along.

3.) File a DD293. I am not exactly sure what it is called. But it is for action to upgrade your discharge.

4.)Wait. It usually takes anywhere from 8 months to a year. Sometimes longer to get this taken care of. But it's really not as hard as people like to believe.



I had a similar situation in the military being hazed, and I just wanted to transfer. I didn't want to get anyone into trouble, and I defintately didn't want out. But my CO insisted I was making it up and sent me to Great Lakes Naval Hospital....I was branded with a personality disorder. However I just got everything changed and I am heading back to the Navy. Good Luck

Answer 2

Hmmmm...AM and Nathean are both correct here...sort of. The only problem with Nathean's answer is that the documentation could prove you fraudulently enlisted which could go bad for you. On the other hand, that documentation could prove that the corp knew of your problems initially and chose to ignore them and put you through all that crap. If that's the case, you should have been released at basic. However, as AM pointed out, once you have your particular official medical diagnosis with that disorder, you cannot serve. It won't hurt to try what Nathean suggests, but it's a dice roll in your case. His situation, based on what you wrote and he wrote, have absolutely nothing in common. Yours was/is a medical issue. His was a failure of leadership issue.

Answer 3

Sharon for PETE'S SAKE, use spell correction! besides, your son is conscious the regulations with regard to the Marine Corps (with an S) coverage on drugs, 0 TOLERANCE. This coverage became crushed into our heads from day one. there is not any one in charge yet him, so do no longer think of badly of the Marine Corps because of the fact your son broke /disobeyed the coverage, he knew the repercussions. I had a Marine under my command like your son. Did drugs as quickly as then popped on the piss attempt, we gave him yet another drug attempt a month later and the stages of THC in his gadget became sky severe, you will think of he became smoking joint whilst taking the piss attempt. Sorry to declare yet your son merits the boot! i do no longer want a guy who must be mentally jacked up subsequent to me in conflict.

Answer 4

"even my family was calling my co's telling them of family problems and my depression as a child and the mental health facility i went to as a child for the loss of my father"



So what you are really saying is...I've had mental health issues for a long time, enlisted fraudulently (didn't tell my recruiter or lied at MEPS), then the problems came back to haunt me while in, I was discharged and now I want the military to admit it made a mistake in the discharge it gave me. Oh, and please don't prosecute me for fraudulent enlistment.



Look, it's over, you are out, leave it be. It is VERY VERY rare that discharges are upgraded. You have to prove to a board of military members that the military screwed up. But feel free to contact the VA, they can give you the forms and advice.



"All i want to do is serve in honor and peace of mind. i was lost then and dont believe i should be branded for my actions at 19."



You won't get back in even if your discharge is upgraded. You are bi-polar, you can't. Many people are judged for life for what they do as adults. You really need to drop the "poor me" attitude, and work on improving and proving yourself, not blaming others.

Answer 5

100% fair, stay the **** out of my Corps.



We all have mental problems Think I don't live a day without seeing my fireteam leader's head getting blown off a week within getting into country and me having to assume the role as fireteam leader, as a boot straight out of ITB?



You couldn't hack it because you didn't want to hack it, obviously you made it through boot camp (as a squad leader too) so you CAN hack it mentally you just didn't want too. Disgusting.



Write a letter to your drill instructors and tell them your sorry for being a sh!t bag after they went through more pain making you into a Marine then you could ever know.

Answer 6

After reading your long diatribe,

1. why didn't you go to sickbay with this



2. you did the crime, time to move on with life



3. Yes, it was fair.

Answer 7

your still a mindless idiot.get a job that's worth having and get on with your life