main differences between army and marines?

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main differences between army and marines?

Answer 1

Doctrinally, Army's purpose is to be part of a big blue arrow slowly churning across a continent. The Marine Corps purpose is to be the first ones ashore, and to establish a beachhead.



This expresses itself in our cultures. The Army does a lot of ruck marching, camping with equipment, and puts emphasis on 'standards.' They have greater opportunity (and funding) for schools, because they work with more protracted campaigns than we are designed to. The Marine attitude is that we are basically going to fight with what we have on our backs, until either we all die or the enemy runs away and we get relieved. We do “expeditionary warfare.” We want wild-eyed killers who will be aggressive in the absence of leadership/direction. Army wants predictable, rule-following people to take orders and be part of a bigger system.



In sum, we're focused on the strategic equivalent of a sprint, while the Army is focused on a marathon. Both have their drawbacks and strong suits.

Answer 2

Marines make alot of damage and level out alot of land with a much smaller amount of boots on the ground than army. The army has alot of people doing a big job. Marines are known for usually having more of a destruction efect with a noticable amount of less marines on the ground. Marines come stir the sh!t up with small amounts of people and army brings in the heavy firepower for support. they all fight the same fight in different techniques and ways. I'm personally biased towards the Marine Corps (well I do go to boot camp for the usmc in august) but I also have respect for the navy,army,air force. we all bleed the same

Answer 3

The marines are a smaller and more dynamic fighting force that "hits the beach" with the help of naval gunfire to secure a landing area for the army to bring in their armor. The marines are better trained gunners and snipers and are a hell of alot more mobile than the army. However, the army has much better armor divisions. As far as aviation goes, the marines are superior.

Answer 4

Truthfully, not much at all.



They are both assigned the exact same missions nowadays.



Marines tend to identify with the Marine Corps as a whole

The Army tends to identify with the Division they are assigned to.



And the old Marine saying " First In "



Well can anyone actually name the last time the Marines were First In , anywhere ?

Answer 5

Music Man and Rock Or Something are right on the nose, but Jason L W is completely off here. In fact, one of the things he mentioned is completely inaccurate, the comment about "superior fire power." In our "kinder, gentler military," we have a set of rules called Escalation of Force. This basically states that unless I see a guy pointing a weapon in my face, I can't return fire. If I know I'm being shot at from the third story of a building, I can't shoot at that building unless I ask my Sgt, who asks the Gunny, who asks the CO, who radios in to talk to his CO...it's so convoluted. In the mean time, the Army just fires back. It's certainly the more common sense approach, but is in violation of the Escalation of Force. On top of this, the Marines aren't as well-funded as the Army, so we can't afford to just keep blindly shooting.



For securing a building, the Marine Corps does have a recon MOS, so I don't see how we'd be throwing stones (especially if we just have all the rounds in the world to waste, so even Jason's comment is inconsistent with itself) and yelling. In fact, any basic Marine regardless of his or her MOS can actually properly secure and clear a building. How? Because regardless of gender and job, we have an additional training after our 13 week boot camp (remember, the Army's is only 9 weeks long) called Marine Combat Training (MCT). During this time, we are trained as basic infantry (not to be confused with becoming a grunt, which is a longer, more in-depth training because that is their MOS school). This is how Marines have beat out incredible odds, like the battle of Chosin in Korea, where 10,000 Marines fought back about 120,000 Chinese soldiers (I did a report on the Korean War some time ago, my numbers may be fuzzy...I recalled something closer to 15,000 vs 300,000, but I can't seem to find a source now for it, but I'm also not really looking that hard). The Army, during a battle around the same time, lost the ROK II Corps to Chinese soldiers, leaving the 8th Army no choice but to retreat, which lost them 10,000 soldiers. So why did the Marines fare so much better, especially considering that this was the worst winter in almost exactly 100 years? Training.





As for the Army being a "lean and skilled fighter" compared to the big brute Marine, I want you to take a look at any given soldier and compare him/her to any given Marine. I promise you that the Army isn't going to win the leanness competition. I mean, just Google the body fat standards of the two branches. Men between 17 and 26 in the Marine Corps need to be no more than 18% body fat. In the Army, you can be up to 20% body fat between 17 and 20, and 22% between 21 and 27. For both branches, it only goes up from there, and the highest body fat standard for a male Marine (aged 46+) is still LOWER than the highest body fat standard for a male soldier between 21 and 27 years old. That's right, our 50 year-old Marines have to be LEANER than a 22 year-old soldier. The same is true with the females, except a 46+ year-old female Marine has to be LEANER than a 17 year-old female soldier. Yeah, go figure.

Again, the "skilled fighter" thing doesn't make sense because all Marines are trained as basic infantrymen, but only soldiers with that MOS are trained to fight. On top of this, we also must learn hand-to-hand combat in the form of MCMAP, and our skill level is shown in the color of the very belt that we wear.







Aside from that, the other differences between the branches:

1. The Army gets more money and more updated equipment. Marines have to do more with less, and are often seen repairing gear while soldier merely open up another package to replace their damaged gear.

2. The Army has more MOS's to choose from.

3. You gain rank much faster in the Army than the Marine Corps. Marines joke that the Army just "hands out rank for anything while we have to actually earn our rank."

4. The Army has more bases than the Marine Corps.

5. All branches of service have some form of air, land, and sea troops, but the Army is considered to "specialize" in land warfare while Marines say they specialize in all three (the actual "specialty" of a Marine is beach assault...that is, water-to-land attacks). Despite their specialty being the land, soldiers actually go in AFTER Marines do. "First to fight, last to leave" is a common slogan amongst Marines.



Hope this helps.

Answer 6

yeah i would really like to know where "marines are first" actually happened.(?)

besides being a catchy slogan, can you tell me where it happened?



now because it isn't true i will tell you how this misrepresentation came about.



the marines are supposed to be anywhere in the world in 72hrs.

because they travel around in navy ships, they carry everything they have on them in the ship.

which means they can travel pretty fast. this along with them only having to have the presidents approval unlike the army which needs congress approval.



so in theory...they are supposed to be the first "major" ground forces on the ground due to their speediness of travel while the bulk of the army is in route. the army on the other hand tried recently to see how fast in can mobilize its full force or good amount as fast as it can.



the result was past 72hrs due to the large number of track vehicles like tanks and all of its personnel and equipment with limited number of aircraft. it was able to do so in i forgot the exact number but around 120+hrs(?)



now all this is where "marines first to fight" originated. they were never and really never been the first to fight in any war..it was all based in "theory". now this theory was around a very long long time ago,and things have changed drastically since then especially in world war 2.

they way things have changed is that the army now has bases all over the world.

in europe,asia,africa, and dang near every place. not just a few numbers but a great deal of soldiers.



so now these troops are stationed there and ready for anything that goes down in their area.

so if something were to happen in germany or anywhere in europe..the army will be the "first to fight"

as they are closer and ready and can get there faster then anyone else since they are already stationed there.



this happened in the korean war. when the war kicked off' not the marines or even the army's airborne rangers of even its special forces. the first troops in the korean war were soldiers from the 8th army,who were stationed at nearby japan. they were the first troops on the ground days before anyone else even came including "marines".



not only this but the army created a rapidly deploy able force of soldiers..who can deploy anywhere in as little as 18hrs. these units were its own 82d airborne division, its army rangers, and all of so com.

these have always been the first people in just about any war or conflict that marines claim they were the first. as they can deploy faster then anyone else due to them traveling on plane and being able to drop off anywhere on the spot.



this happened during the haitian incident. when the us was about to intervene with the haitian army

and needed a quick res ponce, they sent in the 82nd to settle the conflict. no marines were sent.

when america sent troops as soon as it could to afghanistan after 9/11. guess who they sent

as fast as they could...the army's own airborne rangers,and special forces.



in iraq again the army's airborne was the first on the ground all over television days before the initial

troops began their mass invasion. they were sent in to verify locations and pin point targets for the air force.



so the first belongs to not always the fastest..but the first belongs to mainly who can be there first.

if something were to happen in korea again..army soldiers are already there so they would be the first responders.



so in a war or conflict its always been the army being the first boots on the ground.



so now tell me...where is this "AFTER" marines you are talking about.



iraq-joint force main body was army.

Afghanistan -army

korea -army

Vietnam's -army

world war 2 in germany- mostly all army very few marines fought in germany.

haiti-army

somalia-army



now..where are you getting this from..i would like to know.

Answer 7

If the mission were to break into a secure building......



The Marines would scream, yell, kick, headbutt, throw stones, ram, and punch until either the building or their bodies were wrecked



The Army would recon the building, find the weaknesses, and make a detailed plan based on the information. Then execute the plan as soon as possible.



If they were fighters....



The Marines would be a big brute that would use his size and strength to push everyone over.



The Army would be a lean and skilled smart fighter that tried to exploit his enemies weakness.



In a fire fight the Army uses Find, Fix, Finish.



The Marines uses Fire Superiority (shoot at them more than they shoot at you)

Answer 8

marines like to play in the water.

Answer 9

As good as my husband looks in his uniform, the Marines do have better uniforms.

Answer 10

In competitions and such Army snipers come out on top and i don't believe marine infantry is any better than army infantry

Answer 11

rock or something, hannibal the cannibal, and music man nailed your question. listen to these folks and not the other dummies. they know what they are talking about.

Answer 12

"Rock or Something" nailed it.

Answer 13

one is spelled m-a-r-i-n-e and the other is a-r-m-y