Question:
Iran has now rejected all proposals for abandoning atomic "research". Should the US now invade or bomb Iran?
2006-08-24 10:12:36 UTC
Consider that of all countries now possessing H-bombs, Iran seems the safest:-.

- The US has far more than any one, has used them in the past and was ready to use them again at the Cuban crisis.
- The UK and France have poewrful navies, no one is likely to attack them and yet keep intervening in other countries' affairs.
- Russia now has enough problems of its own and is minding its own business.
- Pakistan has betrayed world trust and given atomic secrets to other Moslem countries. It also has a low key on going war with India.
- Israel launched surprise attacks on most of its Arab neighbours and appalling destruction on Lebanon.
- Iran never attacked anyone, yet is surrounded by enemy states and was the victim of Israeli bombing in the past and Sadam' invasion. Its only likely target is Israel which is far stronger.

- Are we becoming paranoic, or is Bush inventing deceptive bogus resons to justify a pre-planned attack on it, as he did in Iraq ?
22 answers:
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2006-08-28 07:12:29 UTC
karlkalisnikov says: "If you give them a nuclear weapon they WILL use it on Israel". And my question to karl: are you envoy of divine mercy that sent to defend Israel?



And Hebrew Hammer says: "I don't know whats worse your Anti-Semitic hatred or your ignorance.". Where's his anti-semitic? either you support Israel or you are anti-semitic, either be in my side or you are anti-semitic, no choice, no independent views. give me a break!



And using same concept, any one who satnds for Israel against Arabs are anti-semitic also since Arabs are semitic as well. Or if we would like to be more specific, respecting that jews own the rights of this term "anti-semitic", we would say Anti-Arab or Anti-Islamic to whoever stands for Israel.



I beleive people are so tolerant in accepting the idea of "anti-semitism".
brian L
2006-08-29 10:31:17 UTC
The US cannot invade Iran no matter how much it wants to. If we invade Iran will fire it's missiles at Saudi Arabian oil refineries. This would crush the economy under 10-20 bucks a gallon prices for gas and fuel oil. Then there are the casualties we'll take Iran isn't Iraq it's not weak it's air force is up and running it's army has over a 500,000 troops active duty another 500,000 in reserve we can barely deal with Iraq which we haven't won yet. What makes you think we could invade Iran any easier? We don't know where all the nuke sites are, The ones we do know about are buried so deep in armored bunkers that no attack is likely to succeed. Even if you succeeded what would happen they would just start building again it's hard to blow up knowledge or an idea.
M.R.K
2006-08-29 04:24:55 UTC
America has no excuse for attacking Iran why? Because Iran has never threatened to attack the US, so it can’t be a self defence issue. Iran's leaders have been chosen directly by people's vote so bringing democracy is not a good excuse either, so it would be illegal in every possible aspect. But again, that never stopped the Americans from invading Iraq. And for all the people who think Iran has never been a victim I just wanna say something. Iran is surrounded by a bunch of Arab nations who can’t wait to get a chance to get Iran out of the picture! Saddam (who is now the greatest threat to the world) is the same bastard whom America and Israel fought alongside for 8 years against Iran. He is the same guy who was encouraged to invade Iran when Iran had no army (just after the revolution). Iran has always been betrayed and attacked by other countries because of its oil. Before the revolution America took Iran's oil cheaper than a ****** soda. So if you really wanna see who the victim is, take a look at your history books!
SESHADRI K
2006-08-29 23:41:06 UTC
Friend!

In the present world more than a nuke reactor, powerful military explosives, highly sofisticatd battle field equipments, Combat Air crafts, Naval Vessels, our governments should consider helping other economically weaker economies to stand on their own feet; that for no more external dependancy for food, pharmaceutical, construction, automobile, fuel etc by extending their industrial base. This will create a sort of confidence, trust worthyness, friendship, and most important is abolishion of religion based terrorism.



Still the super powers think and do "they have the licence to manufacture and export the dealiest materials to other parts of the world for their personal benifits" the coming up economies will not adhere to them, and ask "why not we?'



Coming to transfer of technologies, most of the recent nuke club members don't have everything manufactured under their own roof. With their influence and money power they get them in the grey market and re-export to the end user.



Even US did it. It exported certain F16 Aircrafts to Taiwan. On arrival at Taiwan the order was diverted to some other destination. Every one kept quiet.



Only peaceful solution is, those countries who are involved in the very deadly science research, should give an undertaking to United Nations that they will not misuse the technology even at very grve situation and will not transfer it to any other country/group who could misuse it.



This may give some confidence to those small / little countries who still struggle a lot for all the necessities due to man made calamities!!!!!
2006-08-24 16:33:59 UTC
It is possible that some country's special forces may fly an unmanned drone over the nuclear research facilities in Iran and explode a bomb at around 5,000 feet so that the EMP will destroy all the electronic components in that facility and all the civilian electric matrix as well.



For example, Bandar Abbas military complex

Coordinates: 27°12′N 56°15′E

Or more easily reached from Iraq is Kermanshah

Coordinates: 34°18′N 47°4′E,



Iran will make a nuclear bomb. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini wants it. He is the real power in Iran.



On August 22 Ali Larijani, hand delivered Iran's 21-page response to UNSC 1696 the package of incentives to dissuage Iran from uranium enrichment. Iran's top nuclear negotiator said that Tehran was ready to enter "serious negotiations" over its disputed nuclear program but did not say whether it was willing to suspend uranium enrichment — the West's key demand. This was because the West had offered many economic incentives.



On August 31 sanctions may be set against Iran if it continues to enrich uranium. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini avers that Iran has a right to have nuclear weapons. Leaders of the Iranian hard-line regime, believe they have a direct line to God, and they'll do whatever 'divine inspiration' requires them to do. Talking to them is pointless.



On August 19, Iran launched a large-scale area, sea and ground exercise he maneuver, the Blow of Zolfaghar (the sword used by Imam Ali), which involved 12 divisions, army Chinook helicopters, unmanned planes, parachutists, electronic war units and special forces. Iran's state-run television reported that the new anti-aircraft system was tested "to make Iranian air space unsafe for our enemies."



On Sunday, August 20, in the Kashan desert about 250 kilometers southeast of the capital of Tehran, Iran tested the Saegheh missile which has a range of between 80 to 250 kilometers. Saegheh means lightning in Farsi. (The language of Iran is not Arabic and Iranians are not Arabs.)

Iran's arsenal also contains the Shahab-3 missile, which means "shooting star" in Farsi, and is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. It has a range of more than 2,000 kilometers and can reach Israel and US forces in the Middle East.



Iran's military test-fired a series of missiles during large-scale war games in the Persian Gulf in March and April, including a missile it claimed was not detectable by radar that can use multiple warheads to hit several targets simultaneously.



The Iranian news service Al-Borz, predicted that on the first anniversary of Iranian President Ahmadinejad's government, in late August 2006, Ahmadinejad is expected to announce what the news service called Iran's "nuclear birth."



In addition, an August 23, 2006 article about Iran's reply to the incentives proposal, that was posted on the Iranian Foreign Ministry-affiliated website , implied that Iran's nuclear technology had already reached the point of no return: "...



The following are excerpts from the Al-Borz report:



"It is expected that the first anniversary of the forming of the ninth government will be the date of the Ahmadinejad government's 'nuclear birth.'



"... Together with [the celebration of] the anniversary of the forming of the ninth cabinet, the president of the country [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] will hold his third press conference... where he will answer questions from journalists from Iran and from abroad.



"In addition to detailing the activities of the government at the end of [its first] year, the head of the government [i.e. Ahmadinejad] will officially present Iran's positions on: economic and cultural matters, the nuclear dossier, the activities of nuclear research centers, and developments in the region."
traveller
2006-08-25 16:04:38 UTC
Don't worry. Mullahs of Iran are paying billions of dollars to France, Italy, Russia, China, .... It is an open secret that Jack Straw and Fischer of Germany were and Chirac, Solana, and Al-Baradei are best friends of Iran. EU elongated useless negotiations with Iran for about 4 years giving them enough time to materialize their nuclear ambitions. Now the same role is played by Russia and China ( China signed a USD 100 billion , YES BILLION and not million , with mullahs recently for OIL exploration projects ) and Russia is selling billions of dollars of artilleries to them. Bush has remained inactive in the hands of Europe for the past four years and will remain inactive in the hands of Russia and China for the years before his period is over.

Bush should attack Iran as soon as he can but I doubt he has the guts to do so. He will be listening to Russia and China and will surrender the whole Middle East to mullahs of Iran as he did in cases of Iraq and South Lebanon.
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2016-09-30 02:41:01 UTC
i'm in a hurry so i will make it rapidly :) Iran on no account attacked any worldwide places , and on no account ever his own human beings , i do no longer understand what ' SGT. D ' potential , yet Iraq Has used poison gas on their own human beings in ' shalamche ' if u recommend that . IraN and IraQ are distinctive worldwide places ;) IraQ attacked IraN in September 1980 . yet approximately united states of america and Israel , properly , united states of america has attacked Vietnam , Iraq , Afghanistan , a rustic in Caribbean Sea ,i think of , i'm uncertain approximately that nevertheless , has used Nuclear weapons in Japan , and bombed an Iranian airplane in Persian Gulf , it wasn't conflict , in spite of the shown fact that it injury us . and Israel has used White Phosphorus in Lebanon and Palestine , and had a conflict with Egypt .
Hebrew Hammer
2006-08-24 10:45:49 UTC
I don't know whats worse your Anti-Semitic hatred or your ignorance.



Iran has never been a "victim" and has been fomenting trouble in the Lebanon for more than 20 years as the chief sponsor and arms supplier of their proxy Hezbollah. That is hardly the hallmark of a "victim".



Mahmoud Ahmadinejad President of Iran has threatened to "wipe Israel off the face of the map". Hardly the rhetoric of a peace loving leader or nation.



Irans political policy with respect to Israel coupled with Iran's suspected nuclear armaments programme is hardly a cause to reassure the Israel, USA and the West. This makes Iran and not Israel the aggressor.



Israel has never been a threat to Iranian security, and all its actions with respect to Iran are purely defensive.



Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is too cunning to start a war YET, but is clever enough to start proxy wars in places like Lebanon:



- to distract the World from his true intentions and motives such as his nuclear armaments programme.

- to try to discredit the USA, Israel and the West in a vicious clever and calculating propaganda war.



Not all of us are taken in by such subterfuge. Adolf Hitler used similar strategies before 1939, for example fighting by proxy in the Spanish Civil War.
thomas p
2006-08-24 10:15:56 UTC
Also, consider this. Perhaps a Nuclear Iran would make the world potentially, i dare say it, safer..America wouldnt intervene with its allies and Iran wouldn't mess with America, due to the threat of MAD



NB

To the above poster, you clearly have no concept of modern Iran, only whjat the right-wing echelons of the press believe. Two thirds of Irans population is under the age of 30, and the majority of those hate the conservative government. Give it time, lets embrace the young of Iran and help them democratise their country, not blow it into oblivian
-RKO-
2006-08-24 10:25:40 UTC
Bush WILL illegally and unconstitutionally invade Iran, just as he did Iraq - and for the same reason: OIL. All he has to do is come up with a plausible excuse that most gullible Americans will 'buy' ("weapons of mass destruction won't work again). We will be "at war" wtih Iran before the end of next year, and only because Bush and Cheney want all that OIL so their Exxon-Mobil buddies can get richer and richer and richer. -RKO-
JuJitsu_Fan
2006-08-24 10:19:36 UTC
you know, if GW really focused on the try enemy instead of the make believe one in Iraq, this would not have been an issue. if anything, iran should have been the target for invasion. with that said, the US is only in the middle east because of our own oil dependancy. if it weren't that we suck up so much oil, we couldn't care less about the middle east.
ali m
2006-08-27 23:44:12 UTC
Iran has never start a war and they are peacefull.in the atomic project we just want our right.like other nations we are permitted to have atomic electricity and do researchs in the fild of atomic electricity and use of them in peacefull filds.

USA and other powerfull nations may dont want us to go forward and becom as a power in the middel east and whol of the world...

but our projects are peacefull.
gregory_dittman
2006-08-24 10:20:42 UTC
Nah, Iran is incompetent when it comes to safety and also earthquakes. This is a country that has 6.0 earthquakes that kill 100,000 people at a time. The next earthquake will result in a Chernobyl sized "accident" when somebody does something wrong or there is another major earthquake.
callan w
2006-08-24 11:29:11 UTC
i think if the US tried to invade Iran the UK Canada Italy Germany will help France and china might but i doubt it.
2006-08-24 10:15:35 UTC
Son, Iran is never the "victim" - their government is run by certifiable lunatics and oppression is rampant. If you give them a nuclear weapon they WILL use it on Israel, and we'll have a nice start to WW3- and is that what you want ?
2006-08-24 11:15:41 UTC
What is amazing is that despite all the lies fed us about Iraq Americans continue to swallow the same set of lies from the same liars being told about Iran.



Fool me once shame on you fool me twice ...eh.... can't get fooled again.



Of course we're only to willing to be fooled again.
vituperative facetious wiseass
2006-08-24 10:26:20 UTC
"Israel launched surprise attacks on most of its Arab neighbours and appalling destruction on Lebanon."



your a sick piece of ****. your facts are way off, and you cant spell.



i hope you die, today.
2006-08-24 11:02:38 UTC
I think the US should step away and let the miidle east handle the Israel issue... that is going to happen anyway....
Wounded duckmate
2006-08-24 10:19:11 UTC
There are enough nut cases with the capacity to destroy the world. Stop them now!
Tony
2006-08-29 23:00:11 UTC
the usa should get rid of the raddical clerics there the real problem.
2006-08-30 11:17:10 UTC
well if i gatta go there i aint play'n war games i am going in to kill
2006-08-29 14:56:00 UTC
no country "needs" nuclear weapons,


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