Question:
how effective is anti submarine warfare, especially that conducted from the sky?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
how effective is anti submarine warfare, especially that conducted from the sky?
Eight answers:
?
2013-02-15 05:47:16 UTC
The only effective protection for an aircraft carrier against enemy submarines is the presence of US Navy's own fast attack submarines operating near the carrier. The carrier's best protection against enemy surface ships is also a submarine. The best that a P-8 or other ASW aircraft can do is to detect enemy submarines are in the general area. However a P-8 can detect diesel subs from chemical sensors that detect the exhaust gases however. ASW from aircraft is based on wishful thinking. We cannot effectively target our own newest fast attack submarines with our own patrol planes. Destroyers are better at ASW than airplanes are. Nuclear powered submaries are faster than destroyers so if the submarine wants to bug out a destroyer cannot catch it.
Mark F
2013-02-14 11:49:37 UTC
The last war to involve a significant anti-submarine campaign was the Falkland Islands Conflict of 1982. During this campaign a Royal Navy Wessex HAS.3 ASW helicopter from the destroyer HMS Antrim located the Argentine submarine ARA Santa Fe and attacked it with depth charges. The heavily damaged submarine was then attacked on the surface by a Westland Lynx HAS.2 firing machine guns and a Mk 46 torpedo which failed to guide. Several Wasp helicopters then finished the job firing AS-12 Skua missiles. The damage from this forced the sub to put in at King Edward Point, South Georgia and abandon the boat. The other Argentine sub involved in the campaign, ARA San Luis fired on the British six times, scoring no hits due to technical problems but tying down a substantial portion of the British Task Force in anti-submarine operations which caused them to nearly expend all of their ASW munitions. Argentina employed obsolescent Neptune MPA's but these had no success in locating the RN submarines operating in the region, which for the most part were operating in a see but not bee seen role.



During the Cold War anti-submarine operations by land-based MPA's were of course a daily routine and countless interceptions were made. The job here of course was to find and track the targets, not kill them. The MPA of course has the advantage that it can cover vast distances in a relatively short period of time looking for that needle in the haystack.
anonymous
2016-10-08 05:17:57 UTC
plane like the Lancaster ought to disguise an rather huge section and attack very as we communicate weapons ought to penetrate the rigidity hull and intensity rates ought to crack it ensuing in a sunken submarine the strongest detection gadget replaced into MAD kit nonetheless no longer available in WW II Magnetic Anomoly Detection ought to %. up the Anomoly led to via a huge steel merchandise like a deliver on or under the water if no deliver on the water must be a submarine and now they bypass to play with Sonobouys for a precise restoration and finally an attack run the place they drop a MK 40 8 Torpedoe to blast the sub in ww II intensity Chrges have been powerful in the event that they have been led to on the surprising intensity and close adequate to the submarine many times this could take dozens of rates and in many cases the quiet sub ought to limp away as a effect of the disturbance the intensity rates created in the water degrading Sonar platforms Sonar replaced into nonetheless particularly primitive in WW II and required very experienced operators the German U boat fleet suffered over 60% casualties ; bigger than the different service with on the factor of seven hundred U boats sunk through Allied action 3 have been captured
ET1 (SS) USN retired
2013-02-14 18:15:01 UTC
I have done a lot of ASW training. Meaning that I have served on subs that were assigned to be 'targets' while ASW aircraft tried to find us.



A lot of money and focus is spent on the effort to figure out methods of finding subs. It is very high-tech.



Older boats are easier to detect. Newer boats are harder.



With our Ohio Class for example, the US does not have any asset that can find one without the Ohio giving it's position away. If the sub is assigned the role of being 'found' than it can do things to be found. Otherwise, it would only be found as an accident, a chance roll of the dice.



Sonobuoys are very expensive, and they are disposable. They only work if they are dropped exactly on top of the subs position, and if the sub is shallow.



SLAR works better.
?
2013-02-14 11:05:22 UTC
Extremely effective.



Airborne assault on a submarine avoids all the advance underwater sonar devices used by the enemy sub. A deeply submerged sub has little chance of detecting a high flying sub hunter - until it is too late.



The sub might detect the splash of the torpedo or missle as it enters the water, but by then it is all over. -*BOOM*- goes the sub.



What you seem to be asking is how the sub is detected in the first place. And that is classified. But once an enemy sub is found, that intel is transmitted to all sorts of sub hunters.
anonymous
2013-02-14 10:08:38 UTC
they are very effective. The U.S. Navy uses its helicopters to drop Sonar Buoys to triangulate the exact location of enemy subs. The helicopters can also carry and launch torpedoes to eliminate the sub.
Killick
2013-02-14 11:52:48 UTC
Certainly, , you are talking about today's A/S warfare. With technology of the ''SONAR'' trade much approved during W.W.II, it would be ''VERY'' effective; mentioning the trade of ''A/S WARFARE''!!!! You protect your ''AIR CRAFT CARRIERS'', by deploying ''ESCORT GROUPS'' with the task force. Destroyers, Frigates, Escort Vessels with ''EXCELLENT SONAR'' are used to protect the ''AIR CRAFT CARRIERS'', by sailing in vicinity of the Carrier and carrying out ''ANTI-SUBMARINE PATROLS''!! Helicopters and Air Craft have and do more than ''EXCELLENT'' A/S(Anti-Submarine) Patrols and during W.W.II, the sinkings of ''AXIS'' Submarines by ''ALLIED AIR CRAFT'' was very close to the sinkings of ''AXIS SUBMARINES'', by ''ALLIED WARSHIPS''!!! Spotting the ''SUBMARINES PERISCOPE'' is a ''NAVAL PROTOCOL'' of W.W.II, which was committed both by ''AIR CRAFT'' and ''WARSHIPS'' of the ''ALLIED FORCES''!!! They did have ''SONOBUOYS'' during W.W.II, which were dropped by ''ALLIED AIR CRAFT'' and though the technology has changed for the better, as it is more ''PRECISE'', they do have ''SONAR BUOYS'' today, that are dropped by ''AIR CRAFT''!!! The chances are more than ''VERY GOOD'' that a ''POSEIDON'' flying overhead will spot a ''SUBMARINE'' when the sub's ''C.O., DECIDES TO USE HIS PERISCOPE''!!! Here are the ways the ''POSEIDON'' will spot the sub: ''BY OBTAINING SONAR CONTACT''-Today and during W.W.II, when contacted by ''SONAR'', the ''SONAR OPERATOR'' could tell if the ''SUBMARINE'' was surfacing!!!! ''BY SIGHTING THE SUBMARINE'': When the ''PERISCOPE'' is about to come out of the water, it can be ''VISUALLY SIGHTED'' as it leaves a ''WAKE'' in the water and Naval Personnel/Air Force Personnel involved in ''ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE'' know what this wake looks like more than precisely!!!





''OBTAINING CONTACT ON THE SUBMARINE'S PERISCOPE BY RADAR'':''This contact can only be obtained by the submarine having it's periscope above the water, as we should clarify the sometimes easy mistake'' of ''RADAR''/an object being obtained above the water, and ''SONAR''/an object being obtained below the water!!! Today, and during W.W.II/1939-1945, ''AIR CRAFT'' and ''WARSHIPS'' of the ''ALLIED ARMED FORCES'' could and can detect a submarine's periscope even if the submarine is not visible to the ''AIR CRAFT'' and ''WARSHIP''; as long as the submarine's periscope is above the water. During W.W.II, this was also comprehendable on the U-Boat's ''SCHNORKEL and PERISCOPE''; as many of the U-Boats were sunk in this fashion!!!!!!
User commited avatar suicide
2013-02-14 10:47:08 UTC
you probably have not heard about Wolfpack Uboats, have you?

substantial portion of them was hunted down by Coastal command Lliberators.



ever since, there has not been a large scale warfare involving ASW aircraft..


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