Question:
We Americans say: "Terrorists are cowards!! They don't fight fair!" But aren't we the ones with tanks and jets
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We Americans say: "Terrorists are cowards!! They don't fight fair!" But aren't we the ones with tanks and jets
42 answers:
acheampong
2016-11-26 02:53:55 UTC
As an Iraqi conflict vet i will regrettably inform you which you have been grossly misinformed. Air strikes are very efficient, precise and purely utilized especially circumstances. Raids positioned us at a plenty greater danger to be a casualty and regrettably that's how we carry out maximum of our missions. i might advise you come across a clean source of innovations. in case you utilize the media that's a great mistake. occasion, the Iraqi human beings, for the main section love us and what we are doing there. I certainly have some pictures of the locals giving us hugs and intense 5's. The media leads you to have confidence in any different case, in maximum circumstances. additionally the civilian deaths led to via the U. S. are so very minimum. conflict is hell and loss of life is the end bring about case you're harmless or a combatant. you ought to no longer even study WW2 to Operation Iraqi Freedom, it is not EVEN A conflict! 2 diverse battles, procedures, much less worldwide places and persons in touch, international domination no longer in play and diverse technologies. For you being a self proclaimed, historian, i'm surprised at how unintelligent you come returned in the time of. For the calling me a coward section, why do no longer you grab an M-sixteen, go over there and teach us all how this is finished! once you're making it returned in a million piece i will call you a coward after which you will tell me the way you experience. God Bless
dougdell
2007-03-15 10:03:56 UTC
Women and children are ONLY killed when cowardly insurgents hide behind them. Check the Geneva convention - it says you can't use civilians as shields.



The Rules of Engagement say every effort will be made to avoid killing civilians, but at the same time commanders are allowed to use sufficent force neccesary to negate a threat. If an insurgent is killing us from inside a barricaded building, and we have to blow up the building to negate the threat, then it's HIS fault - not ours - if there happened to be innocent civilians in the building. The US never purposefully targets civilians. That's the difference between us and the insurgents.



I don't think war should be fair - the whole concept is that the better equipped force should win. Using your logic, a boxer who gets to train a little more or who has a better nutritionist has an unfair advantage - oh my! But I do think warriors should not be cowardly in their fighting. If an insurgent drives a car into a crowded market and blows it up, purposefully killing women and children - that's cowardly.



You are arguing against US actions, when the US goes out of its way to protect civilians. How many questions have you posted condemning these cowardly, cruel, against the Geneva convention acts of the insurgents?
2007-03-15 10:17:50 UTC
I will admit, women and children have died as a result of American military action, what you fail to realize, kiddo, is that the US does not target these people, we do everything we can to avoid innocent casualties. Do you have any idea what it feels like to know you just put 3 25mm HE-DP rounds into a tractor that's carrying a couple children and also a few people carrying anti-armor weapons that could kill you. When it comes down to it, you could never make that call, you don't have what it takes to make a decision and live with it.



How dare you criticize what you don't have the guts to do yourself. The people in our armed forces put their lives on the line every day to give you the freedom you have right now, so that you can come on here and post anti-American remarks. In MY opinion, YOU are the coward, do have any concept of how privileged you are to live in this country? To live where you Can believe what you want and do what you want, so long as it does not infringe on the rights of others.



Until you have to live with the regret of knowing that you ended a child's life, the pain that stays in your heart forever because you know you ended a life before that child had any real chance in life, and the confusion of how you can do that, and still come home and want nothing more than to keep your own child safe, you have NO place to stand and criticize those who have. So don't sit on your High Horse and preach to me, or anyone, about whats fair in life and what isn't, don't you lecture me on who is a coward and who isn't, and don't you ever dare degrade those who give every once of their souls, who leave their families for over a year to make sure that you will never have to know the hell of those less fortunate than citizens of the US. Maybe you should enlist in the military and go to war, and fight for your life, and fight for the freedom of those back home, MAYBE then, you will understand how good life is here, and how much it hurts to know you have taken a life, especially that of a non-combatant.



Now, go off and do whatever you want, go to the store, go get a hamburger, you have that freedom, so use it. And on behalf of those who are fighting in the desert and across the world, I say this:



Thank You. Thank you for using this freedom you have, thank you for using the freedom that so many have died for, and that so Many more will fight for, knowing they may be the next to die. Because in your free use of anti-American remarks, and you hiding behind the "its a free country" saying, you have made their deaths not in vain, you have showed what they have died to give you, so, again I say Thank You. While you wait at home, we will be here, ever vigilant, to protect you from the dangers world wide, so that you may have and continue to live a free and comfortable life.
justa
2007-03-15 10:01:18 UTC
At one time in our history we were the terrorists, who used a new and unfair tactic to combat the hardened British. We didn't fight fair according to their way of thinking and we won.

All wars kill noncombatants if not immediately with guns and bullets, then long term with illness and starvation.

A bomb is pretty useless unless you have something to hit. That's why Afghanistan was dumb, no targets, and we never found the one man we supposedly went in to kill. At least we had a recognized reason for going there and beating back the Taliban at least for a while was a good thing..

Killing someone with a rock, leaves them just as dead

War and humanity seem to have been created at about the same time, it never solves anything or we would have outgrown it as a method of problem solving, so I assume it satisfies some deep need of humanity and whether you are killing with rocks or jets, its the same primitive need being satisfied.
Robert N
2007-03-15 10:10:40 UTC
The nature of asymmetric warfare (as in one side grossly overmatches the other side) is that the other side has to do something to make up the difference. In the case of our current enemy, they use low-technology alternatives such as IEDs, they hide amongst the populace, and they do many things that non-military types consider to be underhanded.



Those of us who are warfighters, however, (should) recognize the threat that asymmetric warfare poses upon our troops and should be working to overcome that threat.



A large part of the problem is that we are not used to fighting this kind of enemy. I have been in the military for 17 years...I joined at the end of the cold war when our mission in Germany was winding down...Even the most sophisticated military minds would have had a hard time envisioning us stuck in Iraq the way we are. Remember, Colin Powell and Daddy Bush had enough foresight to realize that if we break Bagdhad, we own Bagdhad.



As continue to evolve our forces into one that is geard not toward fighting in the forests of Europe, but rather the streets of Bagdhad, we will do a better job at neutralizing the threat of the unconventional tactics that the insurgents are using.
2007-03-15 11:12:27 UTC
Ha, and all women and children are innocent, correct? I cant help but wonder when you people are going to get in your f*ucking heads that this is a war in which we are not just fighting a uniform and it's not only men who are our enemy. At least when we kill people know when the f*uck we're coming.



The terrorists are cowards, and the only way they will defeat us in Iraq is the way they currently are... by relying on the political correctness of the united states and that the civilians dont understand anything except when the media brain washes them with. If we were able to fight this war like it was an actual war, we would have one by now. But it's stupid people like you that dont understand and push the government to be politically correct.



Sadly, my husband is leaving for Anabar Provence, Iraq in 3 months (we only were told this two days ago) to defend your right to b*itch about something you know nothing about. At least if you're going to be ignorant, I hope you're thankful for your freedom.
PUBLIC CORRUPTION
2007-03-15 10:14:52 UTC
That gives us all the reason not to vote republican in 2008. They all think the same and feel that harming innocent people for their self gain is not wrong. They are borderline sociopaths. They use deception just like satan, to distort everyone else from the truth. Take the reasons why we went to war with iraq for example. They change the reason why we are there to the situation. And now the funniest thing is that halliburton has moved to dubai. Gas prices have doubled since they stole office, and they have divided our country insted of unite us. And they still, nomatter what happens think they are doing the right thing. Yet they still havent caught the worlds most wanted terrorist that attacked our country. Us not solving anything domestically, or finding a solution to the two wars and suffering the republicans inflict on innocent people, only fuels the hatred for our country any more. And doesnt solve anything. But for some reason they still think they are right, .....or just dont care.Sociopathic.
2007-03-16 20:24:15 UTC
Sheesh are you really that...? Terrorists don't wear uniforms, they hide among their countrymen (whom they kill indiscriminately), wear WOMEN'S CLOTHES to get by our military. They threaten their own countrymen with death if they don't help the terrorists. Our military does NOT go out looking to kill innocent men/women/children, regardless of what some rectal-cranial inbred told you. In any war, innocent by-standers are wounded/killed.

Do OUR military go blow up buses and market places indiscriminately? Of course not!

What the terrorists are doing is like if the BAPTISTS went out and indiscriminately kill a bunch of METHODISTS and anyone else who was around.

(USN, retired and a lot smarter than what you seem)
Luis
2007-03-15 10:09:29 UTC
Hmm I've recently changed my mind about the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The reasons behind going in weren't so bad, it just didn't seem to be well thought out to completion. The USA should've pulled out of both by now and the countries should be building, instead they have huge inner turmoil. It's poor investing I think, poor investing in poor planning.



As for the tech used, again it could've been used better, for all their information gathering abilities it sure took them forever to get Saddam. The tech is also being poorly used now, it didn't seem initially well applied for urban combat.



As for US as terrorists, I think they did what was necessary for it's time, now a bigger counterculture is forming. There are always casualties in wars, the US is keeping it as contained as possible I think. If they wanted to terrorize they would simply use Nukes to wipe the country and devastate it's people, however they realize that the people do not need to be wiped off the land, but the extremists do.



However it would be better if they spent the money to help the people of Iraq and Afghanistan to fight their own terrorists and reestablish their culture and rule free of Western influence. They're better equipped to deal with it, they'll likely kill less women in children as you put it.
swamp elf
2007-03-15 09:57:53 UTC
you for get a few tiny details. Like the Hezbollah making the women and children live right where the weapons were stored. So they got bombed. Well too bad. That is the Hezbollah's fault, not ours. In war civilians always get killed. You do not seem overly sad about the women in the twin towers in New York. But they got killed by cowardly terrorists. What were they doing wrong. You would rather we sent children and others out with bombs strapped to themselves loaded with shrapnel to tear apart innocent people out shopping or having lunch. Good lord man, get a grip on reality.
Time to Shrug, Atlas
2007-03-15 09:51:51 UTC
We don't intentionally target women and children.



There's your difference, chief.
huckleberry1
2007-03-15 09:54:44 UTC
I love this comparison. I love to see how bent out of shape overly patriotic people get when you bring up this fact.



The truth is the terrorists are anything but cowards any one that will strap a bomb to himself and blow up as many of the enemy as he can is not a coward. Likewise our soldiers are pretty hard core themselves. I'm always amazed how hard American soldiers fight and die and they really don't have to if they want to and it's for someone else's freedom and they are usually outnumbered 5 to 1. That's pretty phuckin heroic too!



Correction guys, our tanks and planes are not out in the open where you cn see them. One of the reasons why are tanks and jets are so effective is because they use stealth and hide before attacking the enemy, often the enemy doesn't even get an opportunity to see us to engage us. So in all fairness, I'm sure they could say this was cowardly as well.
lestat_iwav
2007-03-15 11:20:16 UTC
Uhm....i truly do not mean to sound cold...but war is a good form of population control...the earth is highly overpopulated. Everything needs to die to make room for something else. It may seem screwed up...but it's a simple fact that, death will

occur among the weakest, the strongest, the rich, the poor, and even the innocent and guilty. We should mourn for those who die regardless of who is right and wrong though.
2007-03-15 10:40:40 UTC
When making war to make war or for world domination of energy resources or even ones own feeling of superiority that you and only you are capable of telling rest of world how to live, then it is not war," it is murder".

Over 600,000 people did not need to die in Iraq but Americans chose to kill them and cause such chaos that led to even more kiling.

Iraq is not a war it is a Turkey shoot with moving targets to practice upon.

The US populace knew there were no WMD's, a fabricated wordage to arouse emotions, that Iraq had nothign to do with the terorrist destruction of towers in NY, yet they lined up and cheered an invasion and watched in, not in "shock and awe" the Iraquis were felling, but in orgiastic pleasure at the destuction of a country.

Taking pride in the fact or worlds most powerfull military, with the worlds best eqquipment, body armor the enemys weapons could not penetrate, and being force fed pentgon propaganda tied yellow ribbons on overpasses and bought millions of plastic ribbons and flags to show how patriotic they were.

Tales of torture, proof of torture , tales of rapes and proof of rapes,tales of billions being stolen from both Iraquis and US and proof of such, tlaes of how badly military wounded were treated and proof of how badly treated, loss of civil liberites rumored and civli liberties proven lost, a woman made a hero and then proven to be not a hero, world press tells of deliberte slaughter by US troops and torture of peopel from every country in world of jet flights proven and we say we are a brave nation.

A bunch of bullys who follow bigger bullys and dare not say truth for fear of being deemed unpatriotic.

Thieves who upon getting caught blame the other guy and then want the other guy punished.Thieves who thought the plunder would pay for all the damage they caused jwo find the damge is costing more than the pplunder for themselves even though the ones who led them to stael still profit.

Worse yet are the ones so wrapped in self delusions of gran-deur they do not want to see truth and bend facts to fit their fantacys.

Knowing nothing of the real politic and the true history of its nation it allows the real brutality of its military occupaton and the cowardice of a whole nation to hide what should of been an act of shame behind some smoke and mirrors of PATRIOTISM.

Mirror Mirror on he Wall, Who is the fairest of them all."

Why ask the mirror when you know it has to lie or get broken.
The_moondog
2007-03-17 12:44:46 UTC
Terrorists are cowards. And there is no such thing as a fair fight.
2007-03-15 09:54:47 UTC
listen liberal, its not like we target women and children with our weapons. Those terrorist cowards hide in places where women and children are. They use them as human shields, and hide in mosques. How can you say WE are cowards, when they are the ones blowing up innocent people in markets, schools, and other civilian locations? You liberals really need to wake up, and see this is exactly why we are fighting this war now. To get rid of people like these terrorist scumbags that are willing to kill innocent people to prove their point.
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2007-03-15 10:12:25 UTC
AlQaida terrorists are cowards and the US

Armed Forces do not hide behind women

children and we try not to kill Civillians

unless they are trying to kill American troops.
2007-03-15 09:56:50 UTC
And??? Sorry my friend war is not pretty who ever told you that it was?? Our military has made every attempt to make sure as best as they can to not hit these sites however let us turn the table my friend. Is it right to strap explosives onto a woman or a child and send them in a car onto a military base?? Didnt think so its a war and our country is winning stop whining and start backing your people if your an American. If your not keep your nose out!!! Truth is people die in wars its sad but true.
MH/Citizens Protecting Rights!
2007-03-15 09:55:23 UTC
Who said "All's fair in love and war"? War is not fair. Life is not fair. People are killed everyday by cars, drugs, medical malpractice, disease, war, poison, toxic air, and the most horrid of all, starvation and lack of shelter! What is fair about this?



Why don't we all concentrate on doing our part to ensure there isn't a need for war and that no one goes hungry. But then how would you control the burgeoning population?
Kevin A
2007-03-15 10:26:29 UTC
Another liberal takes the side of the enemy. It's a sad portion of America when they take the side of people murdering others for no reason and you are one of them. Maybe you should go over an apologize to the Iraqis that are being murdered by their own people.
producer_vortex
2007-03-15 09:56:02 UTC
Tanks and Jets are out in the open where they can be seen.

You know why they are there.



Car bombs on the other hand, are sneaky and underhanded.



I hope you never get into a situation where there is one parked

where you or your family are. Although that would tend to teach

you the difference.
eviot44
2007-03-15 10:01:20 UTC
Terrorism comes from Latin Tera or land of possession we are deployed in 30 countries around the world do you thing they like us being there ?? they ca not get us out of their backs now you choose the terrorist...
gregory_dittman
2007-03-15 10:08:33 UTC
Taunting was always a part of war. You should see the WII propoganda. Some of it accused the Axis leaders of being gay (complete with pictures) and stealing each other's women.
2007-03-15 09:54:03 UTC
"Fairness" in war is not the objective. Winning is. The difference: US forces do everything in their power to avoid civillian collateral damage, even at risk to their own troops. Terrorists do not distinguish between military and civillian targets, and do not care about collateral damage.



Maher is an idiot. It requires MUCH more bravery to put your life in harms way to AVOID hurting a civillian during combat, than it does to ATTACK a civillian in a time of peace for the promise of a sexually active afterlife.
Centurion529
2007-03-15 10:01:23 UTC
go fu** yourself!!! I NEVER saw an American kill ANY women or children in the year and a half I was there. Come to think of it I didn't see you either, who the f*ck are you to say "We do kill women and children, you know"?
?
2007-03-15 09:56:02 UTC
Terrorists purposely target women and children. We do not. They ARE cowards.
Vegan
2007-03-15 09:53:42 UTC
D'SOUZA: These are warriors. And we have to realize that the principles of our way of life are in conflict with people in the world. And so -- I mean, I'm all for understanding the sociological causes of this, but we should not blame the victim. Americans shouldn't blame themselves because other people want to bomb them.



MAHER: But also, we should -- we have been the cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly. You're right.
2007-03-15 09:58:24 UTC
Think for a moment.... One man has powerful guns, tanks, and smart bombs. He goes up against an enemy he often can't see because of the technology associated with his weapons. Another man gets in a regular old beat up car loaded with explosives and drives it right into his enemy or sets booby traps and watches as his enemy blows up. Which is braver?



War is hell. Innocent people get killed and magnificent buildings get destroyed. For What?
Tropango
2007-03-16 03:31:05 UTC
Do you GNAT TO SURRENDER and hand over you country to terrorists who will force you to become a Muslim???
CC
2007-03-15 09:51:43 UTC
As they say, "that's the price of war." Too bad we couldn't use tactics like we did in Kosovo with exact targeting sites with very little innocent casualties.
lundstroms2004
2007-03-15 09:53:55 UTC
They are cowards, but there is no such thing as a fair fight.



They are cowards because they strike from the shadows and use innocents as cover. let them step onto a battlefield.
bobaj
2007-03-15 09:52:46 UTC
War is not fair. Life isn't fair.
meganthorne81
2007-03-15 10:04:55 UTC
ya its funny that the Bush administration say terrorists are cowards because they kill woman and children. what is Bush doin??! same thing and his called a great president of the united states. terrorists do it without anyones knowledge and bush sends thousands of troops out knowingly and its ok? it doesnt make a difference, the actions r the same. the wars today are much different then WW1 and WW2. Bush is doin for power, control and money. at least WW's were for the worlds freedom. We benefited from those war's. but with what bush is doin, how are americans and each country benefiting? hiking up gas and oil prices! the americans r backin up bush's antics becuz his deal went bad for only himself to profit from.
2007-03-15 10:14:23 UTC
So what your saying is you would bring a knife to a gun fight?
stargazer
2007-03-15 09:53:38 UTC
There are always casualties in war.
2007-03-15 09:54:43 UTC
Aww...the price of war and freedom!
2007-03-15 09:52:59 UTC
The terrorists actually TARGEt woman and children... we don't.
bildymooner
2007-03-15 09:52:47 UTC
All is fair in war. I think we dont do enough killing.
native_pride_666
2007-03-15 09:52:22 UTC
WHAT IS YOUR EFFIN POINT U RETARD OF COARSE WOMEN AND CHILDREN WILL DIE THATS WAR ACCEPT THE FACT WE DIDN'T ASK FOR 5,000 + AMERICANS TO BE MASS MURDERD AND THEY DIDN'T SAY "SORRY" SO WHY SHOULD WE SAY SORRY?
anne33khan
2007-03-15 09:54:23 UTC
Point proven, American troops aren't doing anything worthwhile when innocent lives are taken. And one person's 'terrorist' is another person's 'freedom fighter'



I hate war.



"You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb the world to peace"
webbrew
2007-03-15 09:53:02 UTC
zzzzzz...



Hippies are boring
2007-03-15 09:51:02 UTC
Amen.


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