Question:
Air force spec ops weather?
FudgemsBox
2008-10-17 20:14:19 UTC
What is the difference between combat weather and spec ops weather?
Or are they the same?
How often do spec ops weather deploy, and how tough/elite are they?
How often do you think a spec ops weathermen would see combat during there service? I have read many books and never heard about these soldiers till recently. So i am just curious, do these guy get into the action! or are they just there getting the weather conditions only. I know it is an important and vital job to the SOCOM, but i am just curious?

What is there training like? Do they often work along Special forces?
How many spec ops weathermen have died in the war in iraq and Afghanistan ?
Thanks!

true and honest answers only.
Eight answers:
2008-10-18 08:22:15 UTC
CWX (combat weather) is conventional and SOWT (Special Operations Weather) is Special Operations. The differences is in the skills training and mission support requirements. CWX support conventional units .. SOWT supports Special Operations units and teams.



To correct some that are a bit behind on their information, Special Operations Weather is NOW an entry level position, just as Pararescue and CCT are. This is a recent change.



You can get the chance to try out guaranteed in your contract. The SOWT pipeline looks like this:



Basic Training (BMTS)

Combat Control Orientation Course (CCOC) - indoc

Weather Initial Skills Training (ISC) or Weather Officer Course (WOC) (Officers require a meteorology degree or attendance at an Air Force approved course of study in operational meteorology)

Airborne School

Survival School

Water Survival School

Combat Control School (CCS - Award 3 Level in 1W0X1C) - not the same training as CCT, just at the same school.

Special Tactics Advanced Skills Training (AST)

PCA to 10 CWS at Hurlburt Field, Florida



As for schools like HALO and SCUBA, most of the SOWT guys will get HALO pretty early ... SCUBA is more specialized for them and it's treated more like Special Forces, only those that are assigned to that specific duty will get SCUBA. Things are changing in the pipeline with the new entry level option .. so this may change to where HALO and SCUBA are required for their pipeline, but as of now, this is how it is.



The SOWT guys I work with are great, spot on with their job and tactically competent. They aren't shooters, their job isn't to seek, close with and destroy the enemy .. it is to provide accurate and up to date battlefield analysis of the weather and it's impact to the mission. That doesn't mean they don't get caught in the **** sometimes, so that is why they're trained for it.



We haven't lost any SOWT guys to date.



If you want to know more, read the two sites below.
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RE:

Air force spec ops weather?

What is the difference between combat weather and spec ops weather?

Or are they the same?

How often do spec ops weather deploy, and how tough/elite are they?

How often do you think a spec ops weathermen would see combat during there service? I have read many books and never heard about these...
Matt S
2008-10-17 20:22:47 UTC
Special Ops has changed a lot in the past 10 years or whatnot. It is a possibility that Combat Weather would get put into a diverse team with SF from a diverse background and different service background. Special Ops mission will vary greatly. Combat Weather trains you as a shooter first, so if you have the capability, you may some time have to use it.

REMEMBER: Combat Weather is a SHRED off of the "Weather" career field. It is my understand that you have to work in that career field and then sign up for special duty and a sort of SF pipeline. IE: Airborne, HALO, Navy Egress, SERE, etc..
jeeper_peeper321
2008-10-17 20:29:10 UTC
Combat weather, is not an entry level job.



You have to already be in Weather, then apply.



No they are not shooters, thier job is not combat.



They are weather,



They just have to have the ability, to deploy with spec ops



So they have to have combat skills and be physically fit.



I don't think any have died.
2008-10-17 21:03:29 UTC
nobody here gave you a fully correct answer, combat weathermen are first and foremost special operators highly trained in combat, however there job is not to seek out combat, there job is to get weather patterns and forcasts vital to special operations to large scale military strikes, they are trained extensively in the art of stealth

the grey berets are elite operators





USMC
US Army Major
2008-10-17 20:24:19 UTC
Special Operations Units are usually called apon when it calls for elite soldiers. I don't know where you heard about this weather non sense. When it comes to training for them they get BCT. I couldn't give you anymore info though.



USMC(ret.)

1983-2008


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