Question:
Why are our disabled veterans penalized by our government for serving our country?
Naturescent
2007-12-27 06:58:23 UTC
http://oversight.house.gov/investigations.asp?id=114
Disabled Veterans Tax

Under current law, veterans with 20 years of military service receive retirement benefits from the Defense Department and those with service-related disabilities receive disability compensation from Veterans Affairs. If a veteran has 20 years of service and a disability, however, the veteran’s retirement benefit is reduced by the amount received in disability compensation. This reduction in benefits is known as the “Disabled Veterans Tax.”

According to the Defense Department, over half a million veterans lose an estimated $3 billion in benefits each year due to the Disabled Veterans Tax. A series of Special Investigation Division reports analyze the local impact of the Disabled Veterans Tax.
http://www.disabledveteranstax.info/
Thirteen answers:
Guessses, A.R.T.
2007-12-27 07:02:52 UTC
I agree with you, it's wrong. A 20 year pension should NOT be reduced if they are entitled to disability funds!
GunnyC
2007-12-27 07:34:16 UTC
Never heard of it eferred to as the disabled veterans tax before; new name for a problem or system that has been in effect for a very, very log time. Receiving both would be by government definitions dual compensation which is not legal. Strange how it works but in the long term the veterans does make out some what for the tax break on diaabled income and at the higher percentages it gets better though at the lower side it is basically nothing. The theory behind it is really not bad and does cut down on fraud within the diability side-I am retired and have watched enough here to know that yes people will try to make claims to get something for nothing-I don't think it is very common among the retireees but will pretty much guaruntee some one out there is trying something. I honestly do not think that full retirement pay plus full disability is a way to go-if the disability is something that did not effect his service and pops up years later then it is not necessarily all service related. I know of "Vietnam veterans" who are trying to get Agent Orange disability who were never anywhere near it but the press was so bad the VA over-compensated for the ignoring it by tossing any and everything in to it for any one who spent one day in Vietnam. I think a partial offset would be a good way to go but I would also be careful about the people, mostly non-retirees, I see on here always talking about PTSD and the stress and read the story and they heard a boom once in the year and never left the confines of the base; won't talk about the sailor who worried about the Iraqis suicide bombers might attack the carrier and the 12 hour days every day without a break stressing him out. it . Like many other things much of this is getting blown way out of porportion and some are using it as a way to get something for nothing; there is cases of it and not saying they are all false but the people talking about extremely high percentages (75% or more) suffering from it-most personnel in Iraq will not even hear a gunshot or IED go off and if you worry about the imagined or possibles you'd be a nervous wreck driving a car. The nightmares will fade and you will quit being nervous around fireworks or load noises-ask the Vietnam vets, Korean Conflict or WW2 vets-everyone is jumpy but it is not a disablity or PTSD in every case.
2007-12-27 07:17:59 UTC
The reason is that Congress, many years ago, passed laws stating that a retired military member cannot draw retired pay and VA disability compensation based on the same term of service. If they are awarded a VA disability rating, their retired pay is reduced dollar-for-dollar by the amount of the VA disability pay. That is the law.



More recently, some exceptions now exist for severely disabled retired military. But for many (including myself), the offset still exists. Only Congress can change it.



(USAF Ret)
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2016-05-27 05:40:45 UTC
Romney thinks that anyone who is unable to work and pay taxes is a drain on our society but Paul Ryan says has a plan that will put an end to that problem. Isn't that what Hitler said. Someone told Romney that he also insulted Republicans who were included in that 47% so now he is saying it was only a sound bite, he misspoke and the recording was doctored by the Liberals.Bla, bla bla. It seems that the states with the highest number of welfare recipients are the red states. Mississippi is at the top of the list. Mitt said those moochers need to take responsibility and stop draining the country. Oh the irony and the agony.
RTO Trainer
2007-12-27 07:44:10 UTC
It's actually called Concurrent Receipt. Its been an issue for a long time and Congress has finally started to address it, phasing in full compensation for those with a 50% disability rating or higher.



One problem with all these benefits, is that we could easily bankrupt ourselves with gratitude. I'm not saying that any particular benefits should be removed, jut that we need to look at the package as a whole and structure something that is both fair and affordable.



For myself, I didn't sign up for benefits.
jeeper_peeper321
2007-12-27 08:30:06 UTC
Thats why Bush has passed boith Concurrent receipt and CRSC.



Both programs allow retires disabled veterans to collect both thier retirement pay and thier VA disability pay.



Both programs limit it to those who retired after 20 years and who are 100% disabled.



But they are working on expanding the programs.



My father collects both his 30 year retirement pay and 100% disability from the VA right now.



Generally congress starts out with a smaller program, then expands it later on, after they see how it works.



Contact your local DAV office to find out more information and how to support expanding both programs.
2007-12-27 11:37:53 UTC
Well I am a 100% rated DAV with the VA (actually 130% but you can only go to 100%). I spent 18 years in, tried to do the last 2 to take me to 20 (my enlistment would have taken me to 21 years). I could not do my final 3 years. I now just receive my monthly compensation from the VA but not my retirement from the Navy. I believe the term they use is called "double-dipping".



ACC(AW/SW)

USN ret.
Yogi
2007-12-27 07:08:51 UTC
I will not speak for others however, I not only get my retirement pay I also get a disabled pay and SSI. The kids rate the chapter 35. I also have medicare now that I had to make as my primary or I would not have any at all. Sort of crazy but I guess they have a reason. I am 100% DAV.
specialopsvet
2007-12-27 09:21:25 UTC
They take care of them prety good once you finally get a rating. If you add all of there pay together you would relize they make alot of money. I draw almost 5000 a month with my 100% from the V.A. and S.S.D. plus all of the benifits for my kid's and spouse if i had one.It's all tax free, so i think were talen care of pretty good.
2007-12-27 07:09:45 UTC
Because our governmet really could give a hoot about us, any way they can tax you the better off they are, come on, you get taxed even when you die. It Is About Power And Money
2007-12-27 07:00:54 UTC
They are not penalized nor are they rewarded.
kitkat
2007-12-27 07:06:46 UTC
It is shameful!
okrife
2007-12-27 07:01:21 UTC
Our govt is F*^%&#@ CORRUPT!!!!!!!!


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