How can you people actually think we are doing good in Iraq right now?

Question

oh i know its because you watch the facist news or its because its what our gov't says.....how can you say we are not targeting civilians? we go in and shoot up a whole f**king town with civilians in it who get shot up, little kids too....have you seem the pictures on the internet of the little kids who were killed or the little toddlers who are missing limbs?? why because they were in the way...because their families can't get them out....

Have we made any progress in Iraq??? no we haven't, we've just brought the insurgents out like crazy and they are pissed

Answer 1

Depends on how you define progress if I was HALLIBURTON I made lots of progress with about 20 billion in revenue for supporting the war

Answer 2

Funny that you talk like you have been there, when in reality you are the one who watches the news and you think you know what's going on. You obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. I have been there and much progress has been made. Most insurgents are foreign fighters who are nothing more than terrorists. Why don't you catch a plane to Iraq so you can really see what's going on instead of posting ignorant comments behind stupid questions because you saw some pictures in the internet. War, fought for whatever reason is always an ugly thing. Since you like pictures why don't you look at the ones of the planes hitting the towers? I wonder how many kids where in board those flights...

Answer 3

While I respect your opinion, I don't think that you completely have the whole story. I would like to know where you saw that our soldiers "shot up a whole f**king town". Please provide a link.

Funny, my husband (who is US Army) and I have many friends over there, and we hear all kinds of good stuff. Like how the Iraqis are glad we're there. Like how they are happy to have an unstable democracy, rather than a stable dictatorship. Sure, they're scared, they don't know what's going to happen, but they'd rather have that because at least they know that they are MORE free now. This is straight from the mouths of the Iraqis, not from the "fascist news" or from our government.

I don't trust the news media, at least, not just one source. I watch/read as much as I can from as many of the networks as I can find, and discard the news that completely clashes with other reports.

You ask in another question why people attack you. It's the way you presented your question. First of all, you're hostile. Second, you accuse. Third, you're not really even asking a question; you're making a statement. Perhaps it would have been better if you had simply asked "Are we doing anything good in Iraq?"

Hostility begets hostility, Jada. I would suggest you keep that in mind next time you want to ask a question, especially one about such a volatile subject.

I am curious though, how you know what's going on in Iraq, if you don't watch the news, and you don't mention that you know anyone there, or even that you've been there yourself.

Answer 4

Yes--the U.S. had no choice but to go into Iraq; the administration always said the process of changing the middle east would take decades but it was necessary to start it now. Leaving Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq in an age where fanatical Islamists had demonstrated their capability to attack the U.S. successfully was not an option. Why? Because The co-existence of 1) an enemy determined to destroy the U.S. and 2) a regime (Saddam Hussein) capable of producing (and thus supplying) weapons that could annihilate a U.S. city was not acceptable.



Moreover, when you consider whether or not going into Iraq was the right thing to do, you cannot only consider the casualties in Iraq now. You must also consider the potential casualties that might have resulted from not going into Iraq: first there is no guarantee that more people would not have died in Iraq anyway--it's not as though Saddam Hussein didn't do his share of extermination. He gassed villages. It is arguable that the U.S. had a moral responsibility to do something. Second, if Saddam Hussein did supply an enemy with a biological weapon or a nuclear weapon--say even in 10 to 15 years--and that weapon were detonated in a U.S. city, you would be facing perhaps hundreds of thousands or millions of casualties and life everywhere in the world would be drastically changed; and you could forget about civil liberties altogether. Perhaps you think that the risk of a successful attack against the U.S. would is small. But how can that be? We know that Al Qaeda was able to launch a successful attack on the U.S.; we know that it is easier and easier to get biological/chemical/nuclear weapons if you have regimes like Iran, Saddam and North Korea making them; it is likely only a matter of time before a determined enemy gets such a weapon and uses it against the U.S. It would be foolish to sit back and wait for this to happen; the only option is to go to the enemy and fight the enemy where it is now. There are lots of places one could start, but for many reasons (to discuss later perhaps), Iraq was the most suitable.



Finally, if the U.S. has brought the insurgents out, so much the better. Better to get rid of them now.

Answer 5

You don't understand much do you? We have made progress in Iraq. We are 50% complete on their infrastructure, we are closer than ever on training their own security forces. The terrorist are hiding in amongst the women and children. We are doing the best that we can to fight this war through the eye of a needle. There will be civilians killed in this type of conflict. The insurgents are 90% NON Iraqi, for the simple reason is that they do not want democracy to take hold in the Middle east. Do you understand that a strong democratic Iraq would bring more peace?

Answer 6

I’m sorry you’re so naive. I am in the military and I have seen first hand the good we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Do you have a problem with Afghanistan as well? Just ask any of the women there that do not have to wear a veil any longer and can now get an education. The US military is not indiscriminately killing civilians regardless of what you read on the net. The Taliban, Sadam’s regime (Baath party) and the Iraqi insurgents have killed thousands of innocent people and you want to complain about us trying to stop that. If you don’t like it, why don’t you move to Iraq and help them.

Answer 7

As much as I hate to say it you might be right we have not made much progress in Iraq. The real problem is not the Iraqi insurgent the problem is the American people and by that I mean what do you think of war what are the thought that come in to your mind about war. We as american expect that in a war there are no casualties that the heroes never get hurt an that inocent people don't die well sweat heart you are wrong. America is fighting a war were we have our soldiers dying for a stupid rule called rules of engament we are the only ones fightin with rules your beloved insurgents dont fallow any type of rules they are the ones that use civilians as human shield but yet you are angry at our soldiers for doing their jobs. Who are the ones that start an engage in a fire fight but run like little bi#%hes to mosques so they wont be killed. Plus where do most of the insurgent come from? Syria, Iran not the Iraquis We must fight like they do hunt them down like animals and dispose of them like such. How do you fight a person that belives that if he dies god will accept him in have? We need to let our General and military do what they do best what they have train to do with out having their hands tied behind their backs sending them to die.

Answer 8

War is often fraught with senseless deaths of innocents. You don't need to focus just on the US and its efforts in Iraq to see that it is true. However, your belief that there is deliberate targeting of civilians is in direct opposition to the Rules of Engagement for Iraq. A violation of those rules is punishable under the Uniformed Code of Military Justice, which holds stiffer penalties than most state laws.



One of your other comments notes the number of innocents that are killed by insurgents as being the root cause of so many deaths in Iraq. That comment is based on facts. The insurgency is focusing on the Iraqi police and the newly formed military units and those units are typically attacked individually or in mass in civilian areas. The insurgents however are only part of the problem. Sectarian and tribal violence claims the majority of recent civilian deaths. Whatever news source that you view probably does not differentiate between insurgent and sectarian/tribal violence, but they are indeed unique in their purposes. This type of violence is new, with respect to the time under Saddam, but it is not unique to Iraq. Take a look at Somalia right now and you will still see barbaric acts in a country that the US has not had any troops in for years.



On a good note, the Grand Ayatullah Sistani has called for an end to the Sectarian and Tribal fighting. See link below for the actual message.



Progress in Iraqi can not be measured by the number of deaths. If you look at the violent crimes in the US in 2004, you would think that we were on par with recent violence in Iraq. Progress must be viewed from the eyes of the people of Iraq. I would gladly find you sites/blogs that give voice to their feelings, but you will likely need to read/interpret Arabic.



Feel free to despise the violence, because conflict should always be the last choice. I would recommend that you petition the government to revamp the Department of State so that they can find diplomatic means to help reduce the violence. The last thing that I would add for your consideration is that violence in Iraq was quite rampant prior to the US involvement. Please refer to the links below that cover the charges against Saddam Hussein. The number of people killed by his direction, while not quite Stalinistic, is quite disturbing.

Answer 9

It would help if you give our troops one of the same freedoms that they are defending for you. The right to a fair trial. I beleive I know the story you are reffering to. According to the men that allegedly opened fire on the towns people, they were being mobbed. If that is true then yes some innocent civilians may have perished but what would you do. Where the children injured because their parents couldn't get them out in time, or because their parents used them as shield hoping they could mob those men without repercussion.

We have made progress in Iraq, as stated earlier, they have voted, they have written a constitution.

Answer 10

The US and UK presence in Iraq (The Bush/Blair Axis of Testosterone) appears to have brought about nothing better than the Saddam regime which preceded the illegal and unnecessary invasion. OK, a democratic government has been formed (at last) but the Iraqi people are still killing each other and the "imported" terrorists are adding their own evil to the brew. What is the point of us being there?

Answer 11

You are really clueless. The insurgents are steadily shrinking in numbers and effectiveness. More importantly, maybe you have paid no attention to what life was like under Saddam before we arrived. Even if everything you say is true about Iraq today, which it is not, it will still be an improvement over life there previously.

Most importantly, I do not really care if life is better there or not. I care about life in the US and as long as Saddam was in power, supporting terrorism and threatening our citizens and our allies, we are in harms way. I only care if we are better off and we are!

It's okay because many brainwashed public school pupils and college students learn to rely on facts and not feelings when they grow up. i'm sure you will to someday.

Answer 12

Wow. News flash. They have pictures on the Internet which show little children who were killed in Iraq. In a war zone? That can't be, can it?



Man, that is terrible. I'm glad I found this out. What is that web site name?



I'm going to email Bill O'Reilly about this. Or maybe Geraldo.



Thanks for the info.



It should be noted that I decry the death and injury of every person in Iraq, including our soldiers.



However, I think that it is built into our DNA to wage war. Most of the time it is unnecessary.



In this case, I think it was wise to go in and conquer a brutal dictator. Now it is time to come home. We gave the Iraqis an opportunity to become free and democratic. They blew their chance.

Answer 13

Don't lose hope. It may seem to you that there is no progress, but some Iraqis are happy we are there. I know because my husband has told me how many Iraqis have come to him and say thank you. He served with the Combat Support Hospital and he is going back in couple months.He treated many including kids. Freedom has a price and it is not in Dollar signs, it is in blood. Have you heard of Genocide recently in Iraq? No Saddam is captured, they can sleep better. Those making a big fuss and still killing our soldiers are those who want to gain control and impede a democracy.

Please even if you are mad about this war and seems senseless to you, remember of those 2500 or so brothers who have lost their lives defending the freedom and bringing down the Taliban. They believed and served proudly. It was not senseless for them and it is not worthless for their families who suffered the loss.

Answer 14

Not even the Iraqi Prime Minister thinks things are going well in his country. The only people who think the US is doing any good in Iraq are the war profiteers and the neoCONNED who wear the rose colored glasses this most corrupt of US admins hands out via the main stream media. you know ... those same willfuly ignorant people who remain loyal to the faux Cowboy of God no matter how much evidence mounts showing they've been duped. Some people can't learn from mistakes b/c they can never admit to making them. Just like their defacto dictator Bush Jr, Darth Cheney's sock puppet.

Answer 15

Shut up,are you there?Have you been?And guess what ****,those so called pics are usually from militants blowing themselves up or hiding among civilians like the cowards they are.Sure we have killed innocents.But by targeting them on purpose?No.If a guy is shooting a rocket at you from atop a building killing or hitting near you.You gonna go knock on the door where hes at and ask if anyone is home who is not a bad guy?Dont think so.And as far as Iraq.If you idiots in the left wing political markets would shut up and let people do as they please without putting in your two cents.We could go in and bash them all in one swoop.But no,we have to bow down to political pressure just like vietnam cause some people cant see past all the bad to notice the good on the rise.

Answer 16

Yeah we do. Yes they get in the way. No I don't care. And yes I'm okay with that. Better a thousand civilians in Iraq than a thousand civilians in America or U.K. Although that is inevitable....maybe on that day you'll change your mind about the future of the middle east. Say high to your professor for me.

Answer 17

If little kids die, it is only because insurgents use them as shields. The insurgents deliberately hide in civilian settings while plotting against and firing upon American troops; Americans have no choice but to respond with force. The blood is on their hands -- not ours.

Answer 18

We are not targeting the citizens of Iraq the stupid Iraqi insurgents are. Get your facts straight.



Yes there is progress in Iraq, they have had elections and a constitution drafted. Is that not progress?

Answer 19

How about this... While we may not agree with our current president... why don't we at least support our solders... and stop B******* about something that can't be changed right now... I'm am tired of seeing hurt and dead children but I'm also tired of seeing children that their only future is to become a walking living bomb for some terrorist... if something didn't happen now... it would happen later.



Remember to support our men and women that are only protecting your A**

Answer 20

I dint think so because know the soldiers are confused at this stage of looking for and fighting what they cannot prove to the world and their reputation is going down and liefs are lost on one men research at the loss of the country image and respect.

Answer 21

lets see, we took out the leader, there is a new government est. which is making laws, for the country, not for the man in charge, and people actually are free............. maybe right now they are not safe, but they are free and once this settles down, they will be free and safe, better than being lead by a crazy person and scared of pissing him off or u would die?????????/

Answer 22

hhmmmmm......u have a good point

i mean, when is this war actually going to end? wen iraq gets a president? what do you think thats going to do, start more fights? am i right or wrong?

my dad is in iraq, (im 13) but he doesnt kill anyone, only the Rangers kill, i think........i juss wish we cud juss leave Iraq rite now!!

luv yas

prayin for peace

Answer 23

I think we have helped and we can't change everything in a year or even 2 but we are makeing a difference. My son-in-law has been there twice and he believes in what they are there for and I support all military people who are there.

Answer 24

I agree. And I am sick of people saying that we need to support our president...WHY? Why should we if we feel it's morally wrong? The country would be a better place with a better leader and thats just fact.

Answer 25

Our soldiers returning or calling home from Iraq have an entirely different story to tell. Have you been there?

Answer 26

you have to be careful with what youread and see as news due to the bias a proganda etc. but i do agree with you end the ocupation, im a peace activist declare your desgust for the illegal occupation of iraq

Answer 27

dude you're just stupid. shut up. go die or something.





obviously you aren't thinking of all the people who died on 9/11.

why would you even ******* CARE about anyone from their country.

america does there best not to kill those who are innocent but we're not some pus*y country who's gonna sit back and let ppl walk all over us



if we hadnt done something about it we'd get ourselves blown up.

Answer 28

This is what happens when a 3rd rate, ignorant, self involved, rich dumb *** is put in the white house, only to be controlled by big business & big oil interests!

Answer 29

them iraqis shouldn't have flown that plane into the twin towers Saddam is a bad guy had stockpiles of nuclear bombs and was ready to attack america with them illegal aliens running cross the border with the bombs in there babies diaper bags

Answer 30

Our govt is doing right , but what happend all that money army found in Iraq?. Kill all the terrorists in WORLD, please donot kill innocent people just for fuel! I am an American citizen not a polititian!

Answer 31

Yup it looks like you have started a civil war. There is no leaving till you clean up after yourselves.

Answer 32

Where do you goofy chicks get off questioning Man business to begin with?

Answer 33

I think that we should be in Israel. And I think the US should stop giving our tax dollars to the UN. They are useless just like the senate.

Answer 34

I was there--we helped. You need to stop getting information from the wrong sources.

Answer 35

because I was there and I know. those who have never been there and continually put us down can only speculate and assume. they can also kiss my ***.

Answer 36

Are you Kidding Me? you are that IGNORANT???? You don't trust the government, but you trust the internet....Nice..........

Answer 37

U R REALLY DOING A GOOD JOB BCAS U R RAPPING KILLING SWINDLING ISNT IT A GOOD JOB.

Answer 38

better over there than over here dummy

Answer 39

i could answer, but until you take off your blinders, you wouldnt see.

Answer 40

Go to milblogging.com and you'll get your answer!!!

Answer 41

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