Question:
how to become a navy seal corpsman do i still need to go to a school before i go to buds or after i finish?
navyboy
2008-09-02 14:31:56 UTC
im headed to meps in a week or 2 should i take the seal contract or just sign up as hm help me out if you can hooooyah
Five answers:
Trident89
2008-09-03 21:13:44 UTC
One thing to keep in mind is that just because you go in as HM, ultimately if you go SEAL, you're rating will be changed to SO(Special Operator) and another common myth is that just because an HM decides to go to BUD/S, he will become a SEAL Corpsman, which isn't the case. The way I hear it goes now for HM's is, you go from Boot Camp to BUD/S and upon successful completion of BUD/S(now considered the A school for SO raters) you wear the SEAL rating. The top few people from each graduating BUD/S class will be selected to be the platoon Corpsman and proceed to 18Delta school and HM school. The medical personal will be selected based on your performance at BUD/S. Good luck.
anonymous
2015-08-10 12:26:36 UTC
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how to become a navy seal corpsman do i still need to go to a school before i go to buds or after i finish?

im headed to meps in a week or 2 should i take the seal contract or just sign up as hm help me out if you can hooooyah
Joanne
2016-03-14 12:47:24 UTC
With a seal challange contract, you can choose a Rate, and go to A School, then go to bud/s or you can go straight to bud/s after basic and the three week seaman class. Now they have added an 8 week pre bud/s class after basic at great lakes. Not sure how that effects the above.
lissa
2016-08-29 07:55:10 UTC
Some pretty good arguments here.
Shock and Awe
2008-09-02 14:40:05 UTC
SEALS are the US Navy maritime special operations forces. This small community of about 2000 highly trained warriors perform a variety of missions including:



Special reconnaissance



Beach surveys for amphibious landings



Mine clearance



Direct action



Ship interdiction



Combat search and recovery



Hostage rescue



Foreign internal defense training



Navy medical personnel can come in contact with SEALS who are attached to Amphibious Ready Groups or Carrier Battle Groups, or when they present to MTFs or Fleet Hospitals for care or support.



The last few years of publications, movies, and documentaries about SEALS have ensured that most people know who they are and what they do. However, those outside the Naval Special Warfare community are usually unaware of the kind of medical training and capabilities that SEAL platoons have. Understanding SEAL medical doctrine and training will help Navy physicians provide better support to NSW assets.





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SEAL Corpsmen



The most important fact to understand about SEAL corpsmen is that medical care is not their primary job.



They are SEAL operators who have gone through the same training and certifications as any other SEAL.



Corpsman training and sustainment of clinical skills is a collateral duty, for which they rarely are given extra time to accomplish.



During the Viet Nam War, when SEAL platoons deployed, they took a non-SEAL Navy corpsman with him. As the SEAL mission evolved, becoming more complex and requiring highly technical skills, all members of the SEAL platoon needed the same level of training. Just as a 14 man SEAL platoon can only carry so much equipment on their backs and must decide what is most important to take, SEAL corpsman are trained in the most critical trauma skills to support their platoon, and often do not have the same medical knowledge base that their fleet peers do.





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Training



The training pipeline for SEAL corpsman has changed frequently over the last decades. As a result, there is an enormous variation in the medical experience and knowledge they have. The current pipeline begins on Coronado Island in San Diego California, at Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL School, or BUD/S. This six month course is the most physically and mentally challenging military training in the world. Many references and televisions shows document the experience. It is the segment of SEAL training which has changed the least over the last 50 years. Survivors of this training still have a long way to go before they achieve designation as a SEAL. Upon graduation they leave Coronado for US Army Airborne School at Ft. Bragg, North Carolina. After three weeks obtaining their jump wings, the pathway for corpsmen currently differs from other rates.



Non-corpsmen go to SEAL Training Team, or STT. This used to be held on both coasts but is now transferring back to the Naval Special Warfare Center at Coronado. During this six month training program, candidates learn such basic SEAL skills as Combat Swimmer using the LAR V oxygen rebreather, Close Quarter Combat, and advanced parachuting skills.



Corpsman take a six month detour to the US Army Special Operations Combat Medic (SOCM) school at Ft. Bragg. This course in combat medicine emphasizes field trauma management, but includes instruction resulting in EMT-P national registry certification. After graduation, candidates enter STT six months behind their classmates.



Successful completion of STT allows students to sit before a Trident Board to demonstrate attainment of basic SEAL skills. Candidates who are recommended by the Trident Board are designated as SEALS and are assigned to their first platoon. Corpsmen are given the additional Combat Medic NEC, 8492.





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Skills



This training pathway (Army SOCM course and EMT-P certification) provides a high level of trauma management competence throughout the SEAL forces. However, that emphasis necessarily limits the exposure of the student to other basic corpsmen skills, such as Sick Call management and medical administration.



The EMT-P certification allows SEALS to easily obtain experience in civilian Emergency Medical Services systems and hospitals. It standardizes their skills to a high level. However, the protocols that work in the civilian urban EMS system with short transport times, may be useless (or hazardous) if practiced on the battlefield. Because of its' relatively inflexible requirements for continued recertification, maintaining the certification may be problematic operationally.



There is a wide variation in previous medical experience of SEAL corpsmen:



Some have had several tours as general corpsman, or even Fleet Marine Force 8404 corpsman before starting BUD/S. These individuals with a strong medical background are able to take advantage of all the educational opportunities at SOCM and graduate with a very high degree of overall medical competence.



Others have entered SEAL training soon after corpsman “A” school.



A recent generation of BUD/S graduates were designated as corpsmen and sent to SOCM school with no medical training whatsoever. Because SOCM does not provide the background in physiology, sick call medicine, pharmacology, medical records, immunizations, preventive medicine, and medical administration, their skills are limited to a basic competence for field trauma management.





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Career Pathways



Once a SEAL is assigned to a platoon, he begins a 24-month cycle. The first 18 months is pre-deployment training. The platoon will attend numerous courses for intense training in all phases of the SEAL mission. This is followed by a 6-month deployment.



After post-deployment leave, individual platoon members attend Advanced Individual Training, or AIT, for three to six months. These are schools such as sniper, advanced communications schools, and language schools. This is where the SEAL platoon differs from U.S. Army Special Forces doctrine. In an Army SOF unit, each individual has a specialty developed over his career. While they all have secondary specialties, and are familiar enough with other teams members jobs to take over if they need to, they still are specialists. The SEALS specialize to a much lesser degree. While the platoon will have a designated communications LPO and sniper, for example, there is a basic set of qualifications that all SEALS must obtain and keep current in order for their careers to progress, including:



Range Safety Officers



Close Quarter Combat Instructors



Divemaster



Jumpmaster



and others.



These requirements for platoon and individual training, repeated on a two-year cycle, do not leave much time for SEALS who are corpsmen as a collateral duty to maintain medical competence. They are required to spend one to three weeks a year seeing patients and attending continuing medical education classes. Every other year they attend the Special Operations Medical Skills Sustainment Program (SOFMSSP) at Ft. Bragg, NC for two weeks. This course primarily fulfills the requirements for recertification as an EMT-P. SEAL corpsmen who are interested in medical careers find extra time for more medical exposure whenever their schedule allows.



At some point in their careers, the SEAL 8492 corpsman is expected to advance his medical training. He currently does this by attending the Advanced Special Operations Combat Medic course at Ft. Bragg. The six-month ADSOCM course provides training in many of the basic medical skills and administration that were not covered earlier. Completion of the ADSOCM course leads to designation as an Independent Duty Corpsman, with the NEC 8491. Some SEAL IDCs are then assigned to medical departments where they can continue to develop clinical skills. Most however, go back to platoons and continue their careers as SEAL operators.



Two things have not changed from when they were an 8492:



They have only a few weeks a year to devote to medical skill sustainment



They must keep their EMT-P certification current.





Further, to advance they must take leadership positions in the platoon, which take up even more of their time. It is not uncommon to find 8491 and 8492 corpsmen who have not worked in a medical department or had the opportunity to provide patient care for two or three tours. Further, not all platoons deploy with 8491 corpsmen. While a platoon ideally deploys with an 8491 and two 8492s, it is not unusual to find them with a first tour 8492 as the medical provider, and two more 8492s doing non-medical jobs such as communications or sniper. Physicians providing support to SEAL platoons need to understand this variable range of medical experience the corpsmen may possess.





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Medical Support of SEAL Operations



SEAL operations usually are at the platoon level. In some situations several platoons may form a Task Element or Unit, but missions are usually done by single 14 man platoons. In some situations, such as operations from a submarine with a decompression chamber, a Diving Medical Officer is available. most, there is no organic medical capability other than the corpsman and the equipment he carries. The philosophy of the platoon becomes “travel light and mooch.” Nearby medical facilities may be asked to provide supplies, care, or consultation. Physicians tasked to support these platoons must understand that the requirements of mobility and their mission often make the platoons highly dependent on local support.


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