Question:
Iraq WAR!!! Bloodshed For Oil!?
2006-12-09 14:53:38 UTC
I'm sick and tired of this patriotic, nationalistic and fascist crap. I stood through a memorial service today for a young Marine that was killed in Iraq back in April. During this memorial a number of people spoke about the guy and about his sacrifice for the country. How do you justify 'sacrificing' your life for a war which is not only illegal, but is being prosecuted to the extent where the only thing keeping us there is one man's power, and his ego. A recent Marine Corps intelligence report that was leaked said that the war in the al-Anbar province is unwinnable. It said that there was nothing we could do to win the hearts and minds, or the military operations in that area. So I wonder, why are we still there? Democracy is not forced upon people at gunpoint. It's the result of forward thinking individuals who take the initiative and risks to give their fellow countrymen a better way of life.

When I joined I took an oath. In that oath I swore to protect the Constitution of the United States. I didn't swear to build democracies in countries on the other side of the world under the guise of "national security." I didn't join the military to be part of an Orwellian ("1984") war machine that is in an obligatory war against whoever the state deems the enemy to be so that the populace can be controlled and riled up in a pro-nationalistic frenzy to support any new and oppressive law that will be the key to destroying the enemy. Example given – the Patriot Act. So aptly named, and totally against all that the constitution stands for. President Bush used the reactionary nature of our society to bring our country together and to infuse into the national psyche a need to give up their little-used rights in the hope to make our nation a little safer. The same scare tactics he used to win elections. He drones on and on about how America and the world would be a less safe place if we weren't killing Iraqis, and that we'd have to fight the terrorists at home if we weren't abroad. In our modern day emotive society this strategy (or strategery?) works, or had worked, up until last month's elections.

My point in this; to show that America was never nationalistic. If anything they were Statalistic (giving their allegiance to the state of their residence). This is shown in the fact that the founders created states with fully capable and independent governments and not provinces that were just a division of the federal government. These men believed that America was a place where imperialistic values would be non-existent. Where the people trying to make their lives better by working hard, thinking, inventing and using the free market would tie up so much of normal life that imperialistic colonization and the fighting of wars thousands of miles away for interests that are not our own would be avoided. They believed this expansion of power could be left to the European nations, the England, France and Spain of their time. However this recent, and current influx of nationalistic feeling has created an environment where giving up your rights, going to a foreign country to fight a people who did not ask for us to be there, nor did their leader do anything to warrant us being there, and dying would be considered honorable and heroic. I don't believe it anymore. I don't believe it's right for any American to go along with it anymore. Yes I know that we in the military are bound by the UCMJ and somehow don't fall under the Constitution (the very thing we're suppose to be defending) but sooner or later there is a decision that every American soldier, marine, airmen and seamen makes to allow themselves to be sent to a war that is against every fiber this country was founded on. I know that when April rolls around I will be thinking long and hard on that decision. Even though we in the military are just doing as we're told we still have the moral and ethical obligation to choose to do as we're told, or to say, "No, that isn't right." I believe that if more troopers like me and the professional military, the officers and commanders, start standing up and saying that they won't let themselves or their troops go to this illegal war people will start standing up and realizing what the heck is going on over there.

The sad fact of the matter is that we are not fighting terrorists in Iraq. We are fighting the Iraqi people who feel like a conquered and occupied people. Personally I have a hard time believing that if I was an Iraqi that I wouldn't be doing everything in my power to kill and maim as many Americans as possible. I know that the vast majority of Americans would not be happy with the Canadian government, or any other foreign government, liberating us from the clutches of George W. Bush, even though a large number of us would like that, and forcing us to accept their system of government. Would not millions of Americans rise up and fight back? Would you not rise up to protect and defend your house and your neighborhood if someone invaded your country? But we send thousands of troops to a foreign country to do just that. How is it moral to fight a people who are just trying to defend their homes and families? I think next time I go to Iraq perhaps I should wear a bright red coat and carry a Brown Bess instead of my digitalized utilities and M16.

Notice I never once used the word homeland in any of this. I have a secondary point I want to bring up now. Never once was the term homeland ever used to describe the country of America until Mr. Bush began the department of homeland security after the 9/11 attacks. Taking a 20th century history class will teach us that the most notable countries in the last century that referred to their country in this way were Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. Hitler used the term fatherland to drum up support, nationalistic support, for his growing war machine. He used the nationalism he created in the minds of the Germans to justify the sacrifice of their livelihood to build the war machine to get back their power from the oppressive restrictions the English and French had put on them at Versailles. This is the same feeling that has been virulently infecting the American psyche in the last hundred years. This is the same feeling that consoles a mother after her son is killed in an attempt to prosecute an aggressor's war 10,000 miles away. It's also known as Patriotism these days, but I say, "No more." No more nationalistic inanity, no more passing it off as patriotism. Patriotism is learning, and educating oneself to understand what their country really stands for.

I heard a lot during the memorial service about how the dead Marine did so much good for others and how his helping others was like a little microcosm of America helping because we have the power to do so. Well if we have the power to help people why aren't we helping in Darfur where hundreds of thousands of people have died in the last 10 years. Saddam was convicted and sentenced to death for killing 143 Shiites who conspired to assassinate him. (I know all you "patriotic" Americans would be calling for the heads of anyone who conspired to assassinate supreme leader Bush). And yet we spend upwards of 1 trillion dollars and nearing 3,000 lives to help these Iraqis when they don't even want us there. Not to mention we don't have the legal justification to be there. I guess we should wait around for the omnipotent W Bush to decide who we should use our superpowerdom to help next. It's about time to throw him and the rest of the fascists out. Moreover it's about time to start educating Americans about their past and history, and letting them know that imperialistic leaders are not what the founders of this great country wanted.

December 8, 2006
Nineteen answers:
shurdonky
2006-12-09 14:56:22 UTC
Wow... long essay. I totally agree though, but i really don't think Bush is th e core problem.
Reba K
2006-12-09 22:55:27 UTC
How did you manage to write so many details? Well you are so right. Hallellulah for your words! Prayers for your friend.



But don't buy the Iraq Study Group. If you read that report, then you know that the objective is to not redeploy combat troops back home, but to reconfigure them to other stations WITHIN IRAQ so that the Bush Administration can TRY to achieve what they went in there for in the first place - OIL.



They have warned Al Maliki that he must PRIVATIZE Iraq oil so that international corporations can buy it. There is no plan for bringing the troops home. That area of the report indicates that they will be in Iraq indefinitely.



Tony Blair has stuck by Bush for one thing-- a trip to Iraq in which he can plea that Great Britain can get some of that oil. And he is traveling there NEXT WEEK to make that plea.



Al Maliki has no power except what the US troops bring to the region. And they and the Bush Administration have created a civil war which only benefits the Fascist. Iraqis who want the US out, and those who want the US there are killing each other and Bush is at fault. This is a major disaster in the eyes of the world, but not for the Neocon fascists. Disaster is a path to oil.



Do not fall for the lies. You swore to protect the Constitution. Bush did too -- when he was inaugurated. Since then, he looked the other way when the US was attacked, he lied about Iraq and a host of other matters and he has dismantled the constitution amendment by amendment by replacing with his own.



You are not protecting the US Constitution today -- only Bush's amendments. Stand Up and be a True American.



Americans overwhelmingly voted for a swift change to this fascist government and now they have a brand new group of people who will have an opportunity to restore democracy to the US.



It is up to Americans to now spend time off of Yahoo Q@A and on the legislative websites looking up e-mails and copying and pasting your Question over to your legislators. It's easy.



Voting is not enough. Take responsibility for a government of and by that people so that it WILL NEVER PERISH.



It's not too late. Stop Robert Gates before he begins his diabolical plans against democracy. (He is responsible for Americans being detained in Iran as hostages for 18 months while Ronald Reagan was running for President). Stop the Iraq Study Group plans.



Start your new government on the right path by writing and calling tonight.
d4d9er
2006-12-09 23:13:59 UTC
Forward this to the Democratic leader in your state.



If you haven't noticed the majority of the 50 states of U. S. A.'s people voted for a majority of Democrats and now the wave of the future rests on the shoulders of the Democratic Members to find a better way.



Now that you have finish analyzing offer some suggestions to both parties, Congressmen and Representatives.



Make a difference while you are fully charged up.
Video Phone
2006-12-10 13:51:05 UTC
THE REASON WHY WE ARE IN IRAQ TRUST ME IS NOT FOR OIL! THATS THE LAST REASON. I HONESTLY DONT BELIVE ANY THING I HEAR ON T.V OR READ IN THE NEWS PAPER OR HEAR BUSH SAY. I THINK ITS MISDIRECTION. THEY WANT US TO FOCUS OVERTHERE WHILE THEIR PROBABLY ACTUALLY DOIN SOMETHING ELSE SOME WHERE ELSE AND THEN NEXT TIME U TURN AROUND ,BAM! WE GOT ANOTHER WAR OR ,BAM!NEW LAWS HER.THEY TELL U WHAT THEY WANT TO TELL U.WHAT THEY THINK IS THE "AMERICAN DREAM"THEY SAY THEY WANT TO STABILIZE THE MIDDDLE EAST AND OTHER COUNTRIES U DONT C THEM MESSIN WITH NORTH KOREA?NOW THEY GOT EVERYONE LOOKING AT MUSLIMS AND THEIR PROBABLY NOT THE REAL THREAT! I'M JUST SAYIN ,PAY ATTENTION TO THE THE SMALL STUFF THEY TRY TO HIDE AND NOT TALK A LOT ABOUT THEN U'LLL FIND OUT THINGS BUT BY LOOKING AT WHAT THEY WANT U TO LOOK AT U WONT C ZILCH ,NOTHIN,NATA BUT A BUNCH OF CRAZY BULL S***
mahree
2006-12-09 23:13:55 UTC
I guess you didn't like the answers you got the last time you asked this question an hour ago and you had to ask it again.....Really, 16 y/os should be concerned with school, girls, living out your childhood while it lasts, not pretending to be something they are not....by the way you shouldn't pull out your baby molars unless they are severly rotted and then you should go to a dentist, they'll fall out on thier own and be replaced by your permanent teeth when they are ready.



Want to know what I am talking about? Click on WorldWardIII's name and check out his previous questions when he says he's 16y/o
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2006-12-09 23:01:25 UTC
If you're that sick of patriotism, don't let the door hit ya where the Lord split ya on the way out bucko. You are not the only person who has served his country. You probably don't remember that part of your oath about obeying those appointed over you but the rest of us do.



You call the action we're taking now an illegal war but you want to send troops to Darfur? How hypocritical is that?
Rich S
2006-12-09 23:10:12 UTC
BLAH....BLAH....BLAH.....BLAH...........WHEN ONE SIDE WANTS TO BEAT YR *** AND TOTALLY DESTROY YOU OR ANYONE WHO GETS IN THE WAY BY WHATEVER MEANS. YOU SIR HAVE A PROBLEM. YOU CAN TALK YR *** OFF AND YOU WILL STILL GET YR *** KICKED. IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT SADDAM ORDERED THE ASSASINATION OF THE BUSH SR. WHEN HE WAS IN KUWAIT. YEARS AGO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH TO START A WAR. THEY CONTINUOUSLY SHOT AT OUR PLANES IN THE NO FLY ZONE. THEY CORRUPTED THE ENTIRE SURRENDER PROTOCOLS FOR ALL THE YEARS AFTER THE KUWAITI WAR. THEY TOLD THE U.N TO GO SHOVE IT AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. WHY? BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD. THERE WERE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITES FOR THAT SITUATION TO WORK OUT WITH A GOOD ENDING. BUT THE BULGE IN THEIR PANTS GOT TOO BIG AND THEY FORGOT THAT THERE WAS A KID ON THE BLOCK WHO COULD SHOVE BACK. PUTIN TOLD SADDAM WE WOULD NOT ATTACK AND HE WAS CONFORTABLE WITH THAT. I ALWAYS AMAZES ME THAT STATES THINK THAT THEY CAN SMART MOUTH THE WORLD WITH LITTLE TO BACK THEM UP AND GET AWAY WITH IT FOREVER....NEVER HAS WORKED THAT WAY IN HUMAN HISTORY AND IT DIDNT WORK THAT WAY THIS TIME.
cavinue
2006-12-09 23:00:05 UTC
Sorry, but I couldn't read it all - way toooooooo long, but I do think that Bush put a higher value on his own personal agenda rather than on the lives of the US troops in Iraq.



The soldiers deserve better.
2006-12-09 23:02:10 UTC
I only support those troops in Iraq that are risking their life to protect "America".

I really don't care about the "President" of "America"

O, and I couldn't finish reading, it was toooooo

long.

I totally agree with you.
2006-12-10 03:05:07 UTC
How many times are you going to post this rambling, historically inaccurate monologue?
subhuman
2006-12-09 22:56:08 UTC
man i support all those troops who are out there defending the country, i dont support the actions of the president.
2006-12-09 23:03:00 UTC
Dude, I just did a ten-hour shift and am too tired to read the whole thing. But I do agree with your title though. Pity the people who disagree with you for they are weak and easily manipulated by brainwashing.
asafam23
2006-12-09 22:58:26 UTC
You have been brainwashed, my friend. Almost everything in your post is a half truth told to you by the media and other liberals. We aren't in a war for oil and the war is not illegal. That is divisive leftist rhetoric.
timjim
2006-12-09 22:58:01 UTC
To long.

If the war was for oil tell me why stinking gas prices are not lower
Ferret
2006-12-09 22:58:51 UTC
At last an American has seen the light
rizinoutlaw
2006-12-09 22:58:29 UTC
yup and your the first that needs to get educated on the history of the US and the world
2006-12-09 23:01:52 UTC
I agree with you, no soldier oath is to defend oil companies interest, neither the ambitiousness of the politicians.
Tulip
2006-12-09 22:55:31 UTC
how cliche.
2006-12-09 23:13:33 UTC
You can go on and on about it being over oil.

That simply shows you have no understanding of the situation.

Try reading this.



Subject: Muslims, terrorist and the USA : A different spin on Iraq war.



This WAR is for REAL!

To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).



The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.



First, let's examine a few basics:



1. When did the threat to us start?



Many will say September 11, 2001.

The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:



* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;

* Beirut , Lebanon Embassy 1983;

* Beirut , Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;

* Lockerbie , Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;

* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;

* Dhahran , Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;

* Nairobi , Kenya US Embassy 1998;

* Dares Salaam , Tanzania US Embassy 1998;

* Aden , Yemen USS Cole 2000;

* New York World Trade Center 2001;

* Pentagon 2001.



(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581

terrorist attacks worldwide).





2. Why were we attacked?



Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush

1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or

Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessor, President Ford.



3. Who were the attackers?

In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.



4. What is the Muslim population of the World?

25%.



5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?



Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests).

(see http://www.Nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm> )



Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing

anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over

the world - German, Christian or any others.





Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US , but kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims

there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?



6. So who are we at war with?



There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.





So with that background, now to the two major questions:



1. Can we lose this war?



2. What does losing really mean?



If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions:



We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?



It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post-Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get.



What losing really means is:



We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was, clearly, for terrorists to attack us until we were neutered and submissive to them.



We would, of course, have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see; we are impotent and cannot help them.



They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq . Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.



The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us.

However, it may already be too late for France . France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!



Without our support Great Britain will go too. Recently I read that

there are more mosques in England than churches.



If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us if they were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the Muslim terrorists, how could anyone else?



The radical Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.



Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple.

Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to win.



So, how can we lose the war?



Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war y "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!



Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situation.



President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation.

Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously?

This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.





And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more since then.



Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?



No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our

Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict

and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.



Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the

Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose.



I think some actually do, I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.



Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands,

cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.



And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type of enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq And still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held.



Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.



Can this be for real?



The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.



To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this

prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.



These people are a serious and dangerous liability to the war effort. We must take note of who they are and get them out of office. Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United States , but throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense.



We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world! We can't!



If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated.



And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.



This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.





If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve.

Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?



Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.



And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power.



They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over whom will be the few who control the masses.



What is happening in Iraq is a good example. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?



I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now, after the

election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the

critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is

your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.



After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world. Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that includes the Politicians and media of our country and the free world!



Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read it. Our "leaders" in Congress ought to read it, too. There are those that find fault with our country, but it is obvious to anyone who truly thinks through this, that we must UNITE!



Lastly, I wish to add: At the risk of offending someone, I sincerely think that anyone who rejects this as just another political rant, or doubts the seriousness of this issue or just deletes it without sending

it on, is part of the problem. Lets quit laughing at and forwarding the jokes and cartoons which denigrate and ridicule our leaders in this war against terror. They are trying to protect the interests and well being of the US and it's citizens. Best we support them.


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